Mar 12, 2025 March 12, 2025 - Business Meeting

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THEIR WORK.

THANK YOU FOR THEIR TIME FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

WE DO WANT TO GET RIGHT TO THAT.

BECAUSE OF WANTING TO GET RIGHT TO THAT BUDGET DISCUSSION, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE FOREGO THE REST OF THE REPORTS FOR TONIGHT FROM THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT'S COMMITTEE SO WE CAN FOCUS OUR ENERGIES ON THE BUDGET, AND THEN THE FACILITIES WORK PAST THAT.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TRANSITION OVER TO THE OTHER MICROPHONE AND JUST GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.

I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO JIM TO GET INTO THE DEEPER MEAT OF THE PRESENTATION.

I DID TELL FOLKS THAT THE BOARD HAS A LOT ON THE PLATE TONIGHT, SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS STREAMLINED AS POSSIBLE.

STILL PROVIDE YOU THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT'S CRITICAL FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND, GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.

BUT WE MAY GO A LITTLE FAST AT TIMES.

IF WE'RE GOING TOO FAST, JUST STOP US, SLOW IT DOWN, ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEED.

>> HAVE OUR BINDERS.

>> YES, AND YOU DO HAVE YOUR BINDERS.

ONCE WE GET TO THE LINE BY LINE, I THINK THAT'S THE MAJOR AREA WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE BINDERS.

THE OVERVIEW IS MORE GENERAL.

>> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN. IN THIS THE BOARD I KNOW IS FAMILIAR FROM LAST TIME,

[3.2 Budget Overview and Line-by-Line Budget Discussion]

WHERE WE GAVE YOU THE BROAD OVERVIEW.

WE'RE GOING TO START AGAIN WITH SOME BROAD STRIKE OVERVIEW, BUT THEN DIG IN MUCH MORE DEEPLY INTO THE BUDGET.

THE TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THIS BUDGET, AS YOU KNOW, 96 MILLION, 290,000, WHICH REPRESENTS A BUDGET-TO-BUDGET INCREASE OF 2.9%.

THE ALLOWABLE TAX LEVY INCREASE, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO YOU TONIGHT IS A 3.69%, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND WHAT OPERATIONAL AND CAPITAL FACTORS GO INTO THAT.

WHEN WE APPROACH THE BUDGET, WE REALLY LOOK AT ALL DIFFERENT FACTORS.

WE LOOK AT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WE LOOK AT OUR VISION FOR OUR SCHOOLS.

THE PRIORITIES THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION HAS SET.

WE LOOK AT ENROLLMENTS AND CLASS SIZES, CURRICULUM, CHANGES AND MANDATES, TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES, FACILITIES NEEDS, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

YOU CAN GO AROUND THE CIRCLE AND SEE THIS IS A DEEP WORK AND

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BROAD WORK THAT HAPPENS REALLY STARTING ALMOST AS SOON AS WE FINISH ONE BUDGET, WE'RE BEGINNING TO ROLL THINGS OVER AND START THE NEXT YEAR.

THIS WORK BEGINS WELL INTO THE FALL, AND IT INVOLVES A LOT OF TIME, ENERGY, AND PROFESSIONAL SCRUTINY, AND APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE COLLABORATION OF THE ADMINISTRATORS WHO ARE HERE, THE BUSINESS OFFICE, BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THAT COLLABORATION AND SOME REALLY DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS AT TIMES.

WE HAVE TO BE OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND TRY TO FIND RESOLUTIONS THAT BEST MEET THE NEEDS OF MOST STUDENTS, KNOWING NOTHING IS EVER PERFECT, BUT ALSO TRYING TO USE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS OUR RESOURCES WHERE THE GREATEST NEED IS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DISTRIBUTED ACCORDING TO STRATEGIC PLAN ACCORDING TO OUR NEEDS.

JUST A FEW OUTCOMES TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THIS YEAR, AS THE BOARD HAS ALREADY RECOGNIZED THIS YEAR, WE HAD TWO STUDENTS THIS YEAR IDENTIFIED IN THE TOP 300 AS PART OF THE SCIENCE RESEARCH TALENT SEARCH.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THE STS COMPETITION.

>> I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO ADD ON HERE THE NATIONAL MERIT FINALISTS.

THERE'S FOUR OF THOSE NATIONAL MERIT FINALISTS FOR THIS YEAR.

AS WE SAW AS MS. CUBERFORD DID THE PRESENTATION ON OUR DATA DASHBOARD.

WE HAVE OUR STUDENTS CONTINUED AT THE GRADES THREE THROUGH EIGHT LEVEL TO OUTPERFORM THE REGION.

WE HAVE 77 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS TAKING AT LEAST ONE AP.

WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND THE NUMBER OF EXAMS AND CONTINUING TO INCREASE OUR STUDENT PERFORMANCE ON THOSE AP EXAMS TO WHERE WE WERE AGAIN IDENTIFIED AS AN AP HONOR ROLL SCHOOL.

WE CONTINUE ACROSS THE BOARD TO BE RECOGNIZED AT THE REGIONAL STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL IN A VARIETY OF AREAS ACROSS THE BOARD AS WAS EVEN MENTIONED TONIGHT, STUDENTS COMPETING AROUND THE COUNTRY PERFORMING ARTS PROGRAMS, FORENSIC DEBATE.

WE KNOW WE HAVE STUDENTS QUALIFYING AGAIN AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

IT'S REALLY EXCITING YEAR, AND WE CONTINUE TO DELIVER ON THAT STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE FOR OUR STUDENTS ACROSS THE SCHOOLS.

WITHIN THIS BUDGET, WE WORK TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAMMING OFFERINGS ACROSS ALL LEVELS.

AS YOU'VE HEARD AS WELL THROUGH THE PERSONAL GROWTH AND ACHIEVEMENT COMMITTEE, WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE IN THE COURSE CATALOG AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, SHIFTING FROM HUMANITIES RESEARCH TO AP SEMINAR TO HAVE ANOTHER AP OFFERING AND IT'S A VERY SIMILAR APPROACH TO COURSE, SO WE'RE HOPING TO SEE SOME INCREASED ENROLLMENT THERE.

WE ARE DEFINITELY HAVING INCREASES IN SPECIAL EDUCATION NEEDS AS WE'VE MENTIONED TO THE BOARD BEFORE.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME EXPANSIONS IN STAFFING AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL WHILE WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN OUR INTEGRATED CO TEACH PROGRAM IN GRADES K THROUGH TWO AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL AND ALSO BRINGING ON A NEW 812 CLASS.

AS THE BOARD KNOWS THAT SOME OF OUR MOST DISABLED STUDENTS THAT WE MAINTAIN IN DISTRICT.

EIGHT STUDENTS TO ONE TEACHER TO TWO SUPPORT STAFF IN THAT CLASSROOM SO WE'LL BRINGING ON ENTIRELY NEW CLASS.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SEEING SOME STAFFING GROWTH.

AS ALWAYS, WE WORK TO MAINTAIN ALL CLASS SIZES AT OR BELOW BOARD GUIDELINES AND WE ARE DOING THAT WITHIN THIS BUDGET AS WELL.

WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO A LOT OF FACILITIES PROJECTS.

OUR OWN IN HOUSE FOLKS DO A TREMENDOUS JOB.

ONE WE SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS WE ARE POSITIONED TO INSTALL WINDOW UNITS IN THE TOP FLOORS OF THE BUILDINGS THAT DO NOT HAVE AIR CONDITIONING BY SEPTEMBER 1ST WHICH IS TO MEET THE GOVERNOR'S NEW MANDATE.

AS I SAID TO THE COLONIAL FACULTY, WE HAVE THE AIR CONDITIONERS.

THEY'RE HIDDEN IN A SECRET PLACE ON CAMPUS BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO BE THE SUPERINTENDENT.

WHEN WE GOT TO THAT POINT IN THE YEAR WHERE SOMEBODY SAID, EVERYBODY BOUGHT OFF THE AIR CONDITIONERS.

WE DON'T HAVE THEM. WE DID NOT WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION.

JIM AND JOHN CONDON HELPED ME OUT THERE BY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD EVERYTHING NEEDED.

BUILDINGS ARE WIRED AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO START INSTALLING THOSE THIS SPRING [NOISE].

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT ABOUT TECHNOLOGY TONIGHT, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO DEEPLY INTO THIS, BUT WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND SUPPORT OUR TECHNOLOGY REALM WITH OUR CHROMEBOOK REFRESHES AND TWO GRADE LEVELS, CONTINUING TO SUPPORT DIGITAL FLUENCY STANDARDS AND DIGITAL CITIZENSHIP INSTRUCTION THROUGHOUT OUR SCHOOLS, WHICH IS CONTINUING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, CONTINUING TO SUPPORT OUR VARIOUS DATA SYSTEMS TO HELP IN LOOKING AT STUDENT INDICATORS AND THEN A NEW PIECE THAT YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT, AS WELL AS WE'RE BRINGING ON A NEW HR TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM TO HELP MAKE A MORE SEAMLESS STREAMLINED PROCESSES BETWEEN HR AND PAYROLL DEPARTMENTS.

FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS. THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP ON THE RADAR.

WE KEEP TRYING TO FIND THE SPACE IN THE BUDGET AND WANT TO JUST KEEP THEM ON YOUR RADAR AS WELL JUST SO YOU KNOW THEM FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS.

THINGS THAT WE TRIED TO PUT IN THIS YEAR, BUT AGAIN COULDN'T FIND THE FUNDING BECAUSE IT WAS AS JACKIE SHARED, A LOT OF HEADWINDS, THERE'S SOMEWHAT OF A TIGHT BUDGET YEAR THIS YEAR, AND THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THE TAX CAP THAT ALL DISTRICTS ARE FACING AND EVENTUALLY GETTING TO THAT POSITION.

IT WAS IN A WAY COMFORTING TO ME TO TALK TO OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

IT'S AN INEVITABLE PART OF THE TAX CAP ENVIRONMENT, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE OBJECTIVES THAT THE BOARD SET OUT FOR US THIS YEAR.

WHEN THE BOARD ASKED US TO EXPLORE THE POTENTIAL OF BRINGING ON

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ADDITIONAL CLARICAL TO ACCELERATE OUR EFFORTS TO TRANSITION TO DIGITAL REGISTRATION, WE DID EXPLORE THAT.

WHAT WE DISCOVERED THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THE SAME THING WITH UPK, WE'RE EXPLORING THAT.

THAT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL CLERICAL AND ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO IMPLEMENT BOTH OF THOSE.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD THOSE TO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, BUT WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DID EXPLORE THOSE.

WE DO KNOW WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THEM AND SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE, WE WOULD KNOW WHAT NEXT STEPS TO MAKE TO ADVANCE THOSE EFFORTS AND THERE COULD PROBABLY SOME SYNERGY BETWEEN THOSE TWO WHERE YOU COULD BRING ON A COMBINED CLERICAL SUPPORT IN PARTICULAR THAT COULD TAKE ON THE ADDED WORK THAT MAY COME FROM THOSE EFFORTS.

SUPPORT STAFF FOR THE KINDERGARTEN.

I JUST WANT TO ALWAYS KEEP THAT ON THERE.

WE'VE WORKED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO DO THAT AGAIN TO TRY TO KEEP OUR KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE SMALLER THAN WE HAVE IN PRIOR YEARS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL SET OF HANDS IN THE KINDERGARTEN CLASSES.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE CHOOSING TO PUT OUR RESOURCES AT THIS POINT IN TIME UNTIL SUCH POINT IN TIME COMES THAT WE COULD ADD AIDES OR TEACHING ASSISTANCE IN THE KINDERGARTEN LEVELS.

WE'RE A LITTLE BIT RESTRICTED IN OUR ABILITY IN THIS YEAR TO ADD TO THINGS LIKE PERFORMING ARTS, TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND IN STEM AREAS, ETC.

WE SHARPEN THE PENCIL.

WE'RE USING AS MANY CREATIVE SCHEDULING STRATEGIES AND STAFFING STRATEGIES AS POSSIBLE, RECOGNIZING THAT WE DO HAVE SOME RESTRICTED RESOURCES WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING THIS YEAR.

IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR ATHLETICS, THERE'S SOME ALWAYS AREAS THAT WE COULD GROW IN THAT AREA.

THOSE WERE IDENTIFIED AREAS THAT WE DID NOT ACTUALLY STEP FORWARD IN FOR THIS YEAR.

IN ONE FINAL PIECE TOO, WE KNOW EVERY ONE OF US ALWAYS WANTS TO PUT OUR RESOURCES TO STUDENTS FIRST, BUT THERE ARE, I'M CALLING IT STAFFING FOR ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENTAL SUPPORT.

THERE REALLY ARE SOME INSTRUCTIONAL DEPARTMENTAL LEADERSHIP PIECES THAT WE COULD BENEFIT FROM AS A DISTRICT GIVEN HOW WE'VE GROWN OUR PROGRAMS OVER TIME.

IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THAT, BEING AT DEPARTMENT CHAIRS, BEING AT ADDITIONAL STAFF DEVELOPERS.

THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD REALLY STRENGTHEN AND SUPPORT OUR PROGRAMS IN THE FUTURE AGAIN SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY COME AND FUNDING BE AVAILABLE TO ADD THOSE PIECES IN.

THIS IS THE POINT AT WHICH I GENERALLY THERE IS.

I'M GOING TO TURN TO JIM.

WE'VE DONE SOME BROAD BRUSH LOOK AT THIS IN THE PRIOR PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO START TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AND FINANCING SOURCES THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN THE CLICKER TO JIM.

>>THE CLICKER.

>> GET THE CLICKER.

>> THANK YOU, DR. CHAN. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

AS WE LOOK AT THIS CHART THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO THINK AT THE BUDGET AS TWO PARTS OF THE BUDGET.

CERTAINLY, THE FUN PART IS THE SPENDING PART BUT THE OTHER PART IS, HOW DO WE RAISE THOSE FUNDS TO GET TO THAT EXPENSE PART OF THE BUDGET? WHAT THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE SHOWS IS HOW THAT MAKES UP THE REVENUE SOURCES TO COME UP WITH OUR EXPENDITURE BUDGET.

AS WE SEE, YOU LOOK AT THE TOP LINE, OUR LARGEST FORM OF REVENUE IS PROPERTY TAXES, WE HAVE A YEAR TO YEAR INCREASE OF 3.69 PERCENT.

AGAIN, MADE UP OF TWO REALLY SEPARATE COMPONENTS, ONE RELATED PARTICULAR TO THE CAPITAL EXCLUSION, WE'LL SHARE THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

WE ARE FORTUNATE WE SAW A NICE INCREASE IN OUR STATE AID OF ABOUT 2.6 PERCENT THIS YEAR WHICH IS NICE, LITTLE BIT OF A DROP IN OUR MISCELLANEOUS RECEIPTS WHICH IS REALLY RELATED TO INTEREST INCOME IS A LARGER PART OF THAT.

THEN A SMALL RECOMMENDED DROP OFF OF SOME OF THE APPROPRIATED DEBT SERVICE.

BUT AGAIN, AS YOU LOOK AT THE INCREASE IN OUR REVENUE YEAR TO YEAR OF $2.71 MILLION WHICH IS A 2.9 PERCENT INCREASE OF THE REVENUE BUDGET.

WE'LL SEE THAT LATER ON THAT THERE'LL BE AN IDENTICAL MATCH IN THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THE BUDGET.

THE PIE CHART FORM, AGAIN, IT'S MANY OF YOU ARE, I THINK YOU'RE ALL HOMEOWNERS AND AND TAXPAYERS, SO YOU CERTAINLY THIS SLIDE REALLY DOESN'T SURPRISE MUCH.

HERE'S A PIE CHART LOOK OF HOW THE REVENUE SOURCES ARE MADE UP FOR THE DISTRICT, 77 PERCENT OF THAT IS A PROPERTY TAXES.

AGAIN, 14 PERCENT OF THAT IS STATE AID.

IN MY TIME HERE, WE REALLY HAVE SEEN THAT NUMBER GROW NICELY, THOUGH I THINK A NUMBER OF YEARS IT WAS UNDER 10 PERCENT.

WHILE 14 ISN'T A HUGE NUMBER EITHER, IT'S A NICE JUMP FROM WHERE IT WAS JUST A FEW SHORT YEARS AGO.

WE HAVE OUR MISCELLANEOUS RECEIPTS OF FOUR PERCENT AND THEN YOU'LL SEE APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE OF 4.4 PERCENT.

WHEN YOU SEE APPROPRIATED FUND BALANCE IN JUST IN SIMPLE TERMS, THINK OF THAT AS MONEY FROM YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

IT'S NOT FUNDS THAT ARE RECURRENT YEAR OVER YEAR LIKE YOUR INTEREST, EARNINGS WOULD BE RECURRENT YEAR OVER YEAR, BUT APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE IS JUST EXACTLY THAT,

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SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND YOU'RE USING THAT TO HELP FUND YOUR BUDGET.

PROPERTY TAXES IN NEW YORK STATE ARE NOW BOUND, I GUESS, FOR THE LAST 12 OR 13 YEARS NOW ARE BOUND TO THE TAX CAP FORMULA.

THE TAX CAP LIMITS THE TAX LEVY GROWTH TO THE LESSER OF TWO PERCENT OR CPI, THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.

THERE ARE CERTAIN ADJUSTMENTS AND EXCLUSIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED, SO SOMETIMES IT CAN BE A LITTLE CONFUSING OR YOU MAY HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS.

THERE'S A TWO PERCENT TAX CAP.

WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT THE 3.69 PERCENT.

WE'VE GOT AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT, AND WE CAN SHOW THAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME EXCLUSIONS WHICH IS WHY AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT EXACT TWO PERCENT.

SOME OF THOSE EXCLUSIONS ARE FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, WHICH ARE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ARE LIKE DEBT SERVICE OR YOUR LOAN PAYMENTS FOR YOUR MORTGAGE.

THE SAME THINGS RELATED TO THOSE THAT OUR LOCAL BOCES INCUR BECAUSE WE ARE A COMPONENT DISTRICT OF BOCE SO THERE'S A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THAT THAT FLOWS BACK TO OUR DISTRICT.

THEN WE ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATE PENSION PLANS.

EVERY YEAR, THE PENSION SYSTEM PROVIDES OR GIVES US A PARTICIPATION RATE OF WHAT OUR BILL IS GOING TO BE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

IF IT'S IN EXCESS OF A TWO PERCENTAGE POINT RATE INCREASE FROM YEAR TO YEAR, WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION IN THAT TAX CAP FORMULA GROWTH.

THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE HERE, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO MUCH FURTHER INTO IT, BUT THOSE ARE JUST THE THREE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

IF THE BUDGETS WITHIN THE TAX CAP, WE NEED A SIMPLE MAJORITY, 50 PERCENT OF THE VOTERS PLUS ONE AND THE BUDGET PASSES.

IF THE BOARD WERE TO PROPOSE A BUDGET THAT WERE TO GO ABOVE THE TAX CAP LIMIT, YOU WOULD REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY OR 60 PERCENT.

THEN IF NO BUDGET IS APPROVED AFTER TWO FAILED ATTEMPTS, THE BOARD WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ADOPT A CONTINGENCY BUDGET WITH A ZERO PERCENT TAX LEVY INCREASE.

AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THAT FIRST SLIDE, THAT'S ABOUT A $2.6 MILLION IMPACT ON THE BUDGET.

THAT WOULD EITHER REQUIRE EXPENDITURE REDUCTIONS, INCREASED APPROPRIATIONS OF FUND BALANCE.

THOSE ARE JUST THE THINGS MECHANICALLY THAT THE BOARD WOULD BE FORCED TO DO.

AGAIN, THE BUDGET BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A TAX CAP COMPLIANT BUDGET, SO IT FALLS UNDER THE 50 PERCENT PLUS ONE VOTER FOR PASSAGE.

HE'S OUR HOW WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE TAX CAP? IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP, YOU CAN SEE LAST YEAR OR THE 24/25 TAX LEVY OF $71.8 MILLION.

THE STATE ASSIGNS A GROWTH FACTOR.

THAT NUMBER IS PROVIDED TO US BY THE STATE OFFICE OF REAL PROPERTY AND THAT'S 0.45 PERCENT.

WE THEN HAVE TO REMOVE CERTAIN EXCLUSIONS FROM THE PRIOR YEAR WHICH IS OUR CAPITAL EXCLUSIONS AND ANY USE OF APPROPRIATED DEBT SERVICE FUND.

IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO GIVE AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARATIVE OR BASELINE OF WHAT THE PRIOR YEAR TAX LEVY LIMIT IS AND YOU SEE THAT $69.9 MILLION.

AT THAT POINT, WE'RE ALLOWED TO APPLY THE TWO PERCENT THAT YOU SEE THERE.

AFTER THAT, WE THEN APPLY OR ADD BACK IN OUR EXCLUSIONS THAT WE HAVE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU HAVE THE TOP OF WHAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR.

YOU'RE TAKING OUT YOUR EXCLUSIONS FROM THIS YEAR.

YOU GET A BASELINE, YOU ADD THE TWO PERCENT MULTIPLIER.

YOU ADD IN ALL THE OTHER EXCLUSIONS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND THAT BRINGS YOU TO A PRELIMINARY BUDGET TAX LEVY OF $74.5 MILLION, SO IT'S A YEAR TO YEAR VARIANCE OF 3.69 PERCENT.

JUST ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT TAKING OUT THOSE EXCLUSIONS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BASELINE TO BASELINE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 2.4 PERCENT OF THE 3.9 INCREASE, 3.69 PERCENT INCREASE IS MADE UP OF THAT BASELINE VARIANCE.

THEN 1.29 PERCENT OF THE 3.69 PERCENT INCREASE IS A RESULT OF THE EXCLUSION AND THE CAPITAL EXCLUSIONS AND OUR CAPITAL COSTS.

THIS YEAR, WE HAD A DECREASE IN STATE BUILDING AID.

IT WAS EXPECTED, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS A SURPRISE OR SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T SEE HAPPENING, BUT IT DID HAVE A RESULTING IMPACT AS YOU CAN SEE OF ABOUT 1.19 PERCENT ON THAT ON THE TAX RATE.

JUST WHAT WE'RE WORKING FOR.

WE'RE IN THE BUDGET TAX CAP ERA SO WE STRIVE TO KEEP OUR EXPENDITURES ALIGNED WITH AVAILABLE REVENUE, REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON FUND BALANCE.

AS DR. CHAN MENTIONED, WE HAVE CERTAIN LIMITED CONTROLLABLE REVENUE SOURCES, YOU HAVE PROPERTY TAXES WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE CAP IN TAXPAYERS TOLERANCE INSENSITIVITY, OF COURSE.

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THE STATE AID FORMULA IS DRIVEN EXACTLY BY THAT BY THE FORMULA, BUT AS WELL AS POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS AND STATE FISCAL HEALTH.

THEN YOUR FUND BALANCE ARE A RESULT OF WHAT THE DISTRICT HAS IN RESERVES AND THEY CAN BE USED AND USED STRATEGICALLY.

NEXT IS WE HAVE THE ASSESSED VALUATION FOR ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE TOWN OF PELHAM.

AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE VALUE OF PROPERTIES GOING BACK TO 1617 TO CURRENT, WHERE IT'S AT JUST UNDER $4.5 BILLION DOLLAR.

IT'S MADE UP OF TWO CATEGORIES.

YOU HAVE YOUR HOMESTEAD AND NON HOMESTEAD CATEGORIES.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT JUST IN SIMPLER TERMS, HOMESTEAD VALUES ARE THOSE OF HOMEOWNERS AND NON HOMESTEAD WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

SLIDE HERE IS ALSO FOUND IN OUR BUDGET BOOK.

WHAT IT DOES IS THIS GIVES THE BOARD AND TAXPAYERS AN UNDERSTANDING, AN IDEA OF WHAT THE EFFECT OF A TAX INCREASE WOULD BE OF 3.69 PERCENT ON HOMES BASED ON THEIR 24/25 SCHOOL TAX BASE.

THEN AGAIN, EVERYBODY IS REASSESSED EVERY YEAR.

DEPENDING ON HOW EVERYONE'S HOME IS REASSESSED EVERY YEAR, THE EXACT IMPACT OF THE TAX INCREASE DIFFERS FOR EVERYBODY AND WE'VE GOT A FORMULA ON OUR BUDGET PAGE WHERE FOLKS CAN ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT AGAIN, THIS GIVES EVERYONE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

STATE AID, STATE AID COMES IN MANY COMPONENTS.

AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE FOUNDATION AID WHICH WE'RE SEEING A NICE INCREASE OF ABOUT 6.6 PERCENT YEAR TO YEAR, JUST OVER $555,000.

>> THAT SECOND LINE THERE, YOU SEE ($856,000). THAT'S A REDUCTION.

THAT'S THAT STATE AID THAT I JUST SHARED, WHERE WE SAW THAT EXPECTED REDUCTION.

AGAIN, THAT WAS AID FROM A BONDING PROJECT THAT HAD RUN ITS COURSE.

WE'D RECEIVED ALL THE AID FOR IT.

THAT'S WHY WE'D NO LONGER BE RECEIVING IT.

NEXT YEAR, WE'RE ALSO EXPECTING A MUCH SMALLER DROP OFF, BUT THERE WILL BE AN EXPECTED DROP OFF NEXT YEAR.

WE DO RECEIVE AID FROM BOCES.

BOCES IS A DISTRICT WHERE AS A REGIONAL DISTRICT WE HAVE SHARED SERVICES, AND WE ARE A COMPONENT DISTRICT OF THAT AS PART OF A PROCESS TO ENCOURAGE DISTRICT TO HAVE SHARED SERVICES.

THE STATE ALSO PROVIDES EXPENSE DRIVEN AID.

YOU'LL HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS FROM MR. CEBALLOS LATER ON.

IF WE SPEND MONEY THROUGH OUR BOCES FOR SPECIFIC PROGRAMS, WE CAN EXPECT TO RECEIVE A PORTION OF THAT BACK THE FOLLOWING YEAR IN REVENUE.

IT'S A STRATEGIC USE OF OUR SPENDING MANY TIMES SO T HAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE SEE THOSE DOLLARS IN THE SECOND YEAR.

WE'RE BEING VERY STRATEGIC IN OUR DOLLARS.

OUR TRANSPORTATION AID, YOU SEE INCREASED ON THAT NEXT LINE, $566,000 YEAR TO YEAR.

OUR TRANSPORTATION COSTS HAVE INCREASED.

AS A RESULT, OUR TRANSPORTATION AID IS SEEING THAT INCREASE.

AGAIN, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE OF $566,000.

THE OTHERS ARE SMALLER INCREASES, $6,700 IN INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL AND AIDS.

THEN WE HAVE ALL OTHER AIDS.

SOMETIMES, WE HAVE EXCESS COST, SUPPORT FOR HOMELESS STUDENTS, FROM STUDENTS ATTENDING CHARTER SCHOOL, AND YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $83,000 ON THAT LINE.

MISCELLANEOUS RECEIPTS AS WE SHARED BEFORE THAT MAKES UP SALES TAX, TUITION, REFUNDED PRIOR YEARS, EXPENSE, INTEREST EARNINGS, AND ANYTHING ELSE.

IF WE HAVE SURPLUS MATERIALS OR THINGS THAT WE'VE SOLD BECAUSE AGAIN, THE BOARD APPROVES US TO DISCARD OF UNUSED ITEMS. WE PUT THEM OUT FOR AUCTION.

ANY MONIES GENERATED FROM THAT ARE POSTED IN OUR MISCELLANEOUS RECEIPTS.

AGAIN, YEAR TO YEAR, WE SEE OUR SALES TAX REVENUE IS POSITIVE ABOUT $75,000 YEAR TO YEAR, WHICH IS IT'S A NICE 5% INCREASE.

SIGNIFICANT INCREASE NOT TOTALLY UNEXPECTED IN OUR INTEREST EARNINGS OF ABOUT $200,000 YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE WERE DOING REALLY WELL ON INTEREST FOR A WHILE, AND THEN INTEREST RATES STARTED DROPPING.

WE REALLY FELT THE SAME THING.

WITH THAT, WE'VE GOT AN ANTICIPATED $200,000 DECREASE YEAR TO YEAR.

YOU SEE TUITION THERE.

WHEN WE HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY IN THE DISTRICT, AND WE'RE ABLE TO ACCEPT A STUDENT FROM ANOTHER DISTRICT, WE ARE ABLE TO IN EFFECT,

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SELL THAT CAPACITY AND MONETIZE IT IN THE FORM OF TUITION.

YEAR OVER YEAR, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SEE THAT REDUCTION.

WE HAVE SOME OF THE STUDENTS HAVE MOVED ON.

I THINK THEY'VE GRADUATED, AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE ALSO SEEN THE NEED FOR THOSE SPACES.

NO STUDENTS GET PUSHED OUT FOR TUITION GENERATION, BUT IT'S JUST AN ABILITY OF THE DISTRICT TO SELL THAT EXCESS SPACE WHEN WE'RE ALREADY RUNNING A PROGRAM.

YEAR TO YEAR WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A REDUCTION OF 126,000.

THEN THE TWO SMALLER ONES, REFUNDS OF PRIOR YEAR EXPENSES, INCLUDING ARTS AND ED, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM THAT WE REALLY USED WITH OUR FIELD TRIPS, AND THEN ALL OTHER, AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $35,000.

WE TALK ABOUT APPROPRIATIONS OF FUND BALANCE.

AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE I SHARED, THINK OF YOUR FUND BALANCE AS YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

AGAIN, NEW YORK STATE RECOMMENDS WE HAVE RESERVE FUNDS AGAINST CERTAIN LONG TERM LIABILITIES, WHICH WE DO HAVE.

I THINK PEOPLE THINK THE PRIVATE SECTOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN IN OUR ACCOUNTS.

AGAIN, THE GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN RESERVES AGAINST LIABILITIES AND SUPPORT THE BUDGET APPROPRIATELY THROUGH A PLANNED USE OF RESERVES OVER TIME.

IN THIS BUDGET, WE PROPOSED USE OF FUND BALANCE OF $4.28 MILLION.

FROM THE BOTTOM UP, ACTUALLY, I WOULD SAY JUST UNDER $2.1 MILLION OF IT IS FOR DEBT SERVICE RESERVE.

THAT'S TO HELP ADDRESS THE PORTION UNDER THE EXCLUSIONS PORTIONS OF THE TAX CAP FORMULA, WHICH IS OUR DEBT.

THEN THE $1.2 MILLION, THE $800,000, AND THE $180,000 ARE THE USE OF PRIOR YEAR SURPLUS OR FUNDS FROM OUR PENSION RESERVES, THE TWO PENSIONS THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET.

HERE WE HAVE THE EXPENSE BUDGET.

AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU'LL SEE IT MATCHES THAT REVENUE BUDGET THAT WE SHARED BEFORE.

IT'S A YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE OF $2.7 MILLION OR A PERCENT CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR OF 2.9%.

IF YOU LOOK BACK UP TO THE TOP THOUGH, OUR TOP TWO LINES ARE SALARIES AND BENEFITS, WHICH MAKE UP ABOUT 76% OF THE BUDGET.

WE'VE SAID YEARS PRIOR, THAT'S VERY TYPICAL FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, PEOPLE BUSINESS, AND THAT'S THE RESOURCES THAT THEY TAKE UP IN OUR BUDGET.

UNDERNEATH THAT, WE'VE GOT OUR OTHER LINES, AGAIN, CONTRACTUAL, AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $670,000.

WE HAVE BOCES SERVICES, WHICH I MENTIONED, WE PARTICIPATE IN, AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $200,000, AND THEN SOME INS AND OUTS OF OTHER DISTRICTS.

WE'VE GOT A REDUCTION IN SOME TUITION EXPENSES, BUT WE COULD SEE A REDUCTION IN SOME TUITION, AND MAYBE SOMETIMES IT INTERCHANGEABLE WITH BOCES, DEPENDING ON WHICH PROGRAMS OUR STUDENTS ATTEND.

AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, THE LINE BY LINE BUDGET, THIS IS WHERE THESE ITEMS WILL BE POINTED OUT.

IF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

AS WE LOOK AT THE EXPENSE BUDGET, AGAIN, AS A PIE, YOU SEE 52.5% OF IT IS SALARIES, 23.1% IS MADE UP OF EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, AND THEN THAT LAST QUARTER, IT MAKES UP EVERYTHING ELSE.

YOU TEXTBOOKS, MATERIALS, SUPPLIES, TUITION, DEBT SERVICE, EQUIPMENT, CONTRACTUAL BOCES.

WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE CONTRAST ON THOSE LINES, TOO, BECAUSE WHITE LETTERING OVER A WHITE PIE SLICE DIDN'T WORK OUT SO WELL. WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

>> COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEME ON A DIFFERENT COMPUTER.

>> SOMETIMES IT SHOWS UP DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE PUT IT ON WHEN WE PUT IT ON THE BIG ONE.

ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT. AGAIN, WE LOOK AT OUR BUDGET A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

THE ONE WE JUST SHOWED YOU, THIS ONE, SHOWS IT A DIFFERENT WAY WHERE 58.5% OF IT IS MADE UP OF INSTRUCTIONAL, 10% IS GENERAL SUPPORT, AND THEN THE REST IS AGAIN, YOUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, DEBT SERVICE, COMMUNITY SERVICES, AND PUPIL TRANSPORTATION.

THEN THE THIRD LOOK IS THREE COMPONENT CATEGORIES WHERE JUST UNDER 75% OF IT IS MADE UP OF INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM, 16% CAPITAL, AND 9.2% ADMINISTRATIVE.

AS YOU SEE THE LITTLE FOOTNOTE DOWN THERE, IT SAYS THE ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION OF THE BUDGET CANNOT EXCEED 10% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET PER NEW YORK STATE LAW.

THIS IS COMPLIANT TO THAT.

AS YOU LOOK AT IT BUDGET TO BUDGET OR YEAR TO YEAR, WHAT MAKES UP THAT $2.7 MILLION INCREASE? ABOUT $1.9 MILLION OF THAT IS GENERATED OR IS MADE UP OF THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS, THE ROLLING OVER BUDGET ACCORDING WITH OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.

WE DID HAVE THE BENEFITS OF 13 TEACHER RETIREMENTS, AS DR. CHAN MENTIONED, AS WELL AS ONE TEACHING ASSISTANT RETIREMENT.

WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR SOME INCREASING STAFFING IN SPECIAL EDUCATION.

THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR WHERE WE'RE REALLY FACING

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SOME HEFTY INCREASES IN HEALTH INSURANCE.

THIS YEAR, WE'RE JUST ABOUT 9% YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE OF HEALTH INSURANCE.

WE GO OVER THAT LINE LATER, YOU'LL SEE THAT INCREASE.

IT'S A BIG HIT.

ABOUT $322,000 IN BOCES, OUR INCREASES IN ARTS IN EDS, WHICH IS, AGAIN, A GREAT PROGRAM FOR USE WITH OUR STUDENTS AND FOR FIELD TRIPS.

FACILITIES. WE HAVE SOME INCREASES TO ABOUT $243,000 FOR UTILITIES AND BUILDING REPAIRS, AND THEN OUR TRANSPORTATION COST INCREASES, ABOUT $217,000.

THIS IS GOING TO BE TOUGH TO SEE FROM WHERE YOU'RE SITTING.

WHAT THIS IS IS THIS A STAFFING CHART.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO LINE BY LINE ON THIS ONE.

I'LL SAVE EVERYBODY, BUT I'LL TALK ABOUT THE THREE COLUMNS THAT WE HAVE HERE.

WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE THE STAFFING VARIANCES IN OUR BUDGET BY INSTRUCTIONAL, BY GRANT TO OPERATING BUDGET AND TOTAL.

WE COMPARE IT FROM '24/'25 BUDGET TO '24/'25 ACTUAL.

WHAT'S THE BUDGET YEAR THAT WE'RE IN NOW, WHAT WAS PASSED, AND WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR.

THEN WE HAVE WHAT'S PLANNED BUDGET TO BUDGET.

'25/'26 BUDGET, THE BUDGET THAT'S BEFORE YOU TO THE '24/'25 BUDGET. BUDGET TO BUDGET.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? THEN THAT LAST COLUMN IS THE '25/'26 BUDGET TO '24/'25 ACTUAL.

AS YOU LOOK AT THAT, AND AGAIN, THIS CHART IS CREATED OUT OF YEARS OF DOING THE FORECAST DOING THESE PRESENTATIONS, AND FOLKS ASKING TO SEE IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

THIS GIVES EVERYBODY A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT VARIANCES FROM BUDGET TO BUDGET AND BUDGET TO ACTUAL AND WHERE THE VARIANCE IN STAFFING COME IN THE YEARS, YEAR OVER YEAR.

BUT AS YOU LOOK AT IT, THE VARIANCE DOES SHOW THAT THERE'S A REDUCTION IN TOTAL FTES FOR THE YEAR.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE SPECIAL EDUCATION.

YOU'LL SEE THE INCREASE.

WE HAVE SOME PLANNED RETIREMENTS.

ONE LINE, JUST TO POINT OUT, WE HAVE A MINUS ONE FOR A SECURITY MONITOR.

THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY A SALARIED POSITION, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE POSITION AS AN HOURLY POSITION.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE INTERPRETATION OR THE BELIEF OUT THERE THAT WE CUT A SAFETY POSITION.

THE BODY IS STILL THERE.

IT'S JUST TREATED IN A DIFFERENT WAY AS AN HOURLY POSITION, RATHER THAN PREVIOUSLY IT WAS FILLED AS A SALARIED POSITION.

WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A SIDE BY SIDE LOOK OF WHERE THE VARIANCES ARE TO MAKE UP THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

WE TALK ABOUT OUR REVENUE AND OTHER FINANCING SOURCES.

WHAT MAKES UP THE $2.7 MILLION INCREASE BUDGET TO BUDGET YEAR OVER YEAR? THAT GOES BACK TO THE EARLIER SHEETS THAT I SHOWED YOU.

THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, AS YOU SEE, IT'S THE EXPENDITURES.

AS THEY FLOW DOWN TO THE BOTTOM THOUGH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY BOTH INCREASED $2.71 MILLION.

AS WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET, AGAIN, THE $96,290,000 BUDGET.

A BUDGET TO BUDGET, IT'S A 2.9% INCREASE.

THE PROJECTED PRELIMINARY LAB OF TAX LEVY INCREASE IS 3.69%, TAX CAP COMPLIANT BUDGET.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST OF THREE IN DEPTH BUDGET MEETINGS.

THEN I GUESS THERE'S A FOURTH CLEANUP BUDGET MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AGAIN, THE PROCESS, AS WE SHARE WITH EVERYBODY, IS THE SUPERINTENDENT'S BUDGET.

AFTER THE BOARD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS BUDGET, THE BOARD THEN PASSES A BUDGET TO PUT FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY.

THEN ON MAY 20TH, THE COMMUNITY DECIDES TO VOTE ON THAT BUDGET.

THE FINAL BUDGET IS THE COMMUNITY'S BUDGET.

>> THANK YOU, JIM.

>> I HOPE THAT WAS HELPFUL.

>> YES. I'M WONDERING AS WE TRANSITION.

IF YOU WANT TO TRANSITION BACK OVER, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION TO THE LINE BY LINE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE START THE LINE BY LINE, I JUST WANT TO GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

>> MAYBE WE'LL GO THROUGH THE LINE BY LINE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT TONIGHT OR ANOTHER ONE.

WHAT IS THE INCREASE IN TRANSPORTATION?

>> WE WILL DEFINITELY COVER THAT.

>> WAIT FOR THE LINE.

>> WE'VE GOT A WHOLE TAB FOR THE TRANSPORTATION, AND IT'S MADE UP OF TWO PARTS AGAIN, SOME OF IT IS STUDENT TRANSPORTATION RELATED TO STUDENTS THAT ATTEND SCHOOL OUT OF DISTRICT AND ANOTHER PORTION OF IT IS JUST THE GENERAL INCREASE RELATED TO ATHLETICS.

THOSE ARE THE TWO LARGER CATEGORIES FOR TRANSPORTATION.

>> I DON'T HAVE MY AGENDA FOR THE LINE BY LINE.

>> I CAN HELP YOU OUT THERE DR. JIM.

>> WHERE SHALL WE BEGIN?

>> THE FIRST PART OF OUR BUDGET IS CLAIRE COMERFORD, OUR ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT FOR TEACHING AND LEARNING.

WE'LL START ON PAGE C9.

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>> JIM, FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE AN AGENDA, CAN YOU JUST REMIND US THE ORDER THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO?

>> YES. FOR THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH CURRICULUM.

PAGE C9 UNTIL WE GET TO INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY, WHICH WOULD BE OF MR. JOHN CEBALLOS, AND THEN I'LL COVER THE BOCES SERVICES AT THE END TODAY.

>> GREAT. I DO WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR BEING HERE.

CLAIRE IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING TO THE INSTRUCTIONAL PART OF THE BUDGET, WHICH COVERS A LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE SUPPORTING.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENCE.

CLAIRE, TAKE IT AWAY.

WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE'RE GONNA GIVE HER SOME GRACE TOO, BECAUSE IT'S HER FIRST TIME.

LOTS OF SUPPORT AND APPRECIATION FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AS JIM SAID, WE'RE GOING TO START ON C9.

GENERALLY GO LINE BY LINE AND THEN TRY TO HIGHLIGHT SOME VARIANCES.

CERTAINLY, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING I DON'T MENTION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT ME.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> SURE. FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WE'LL START WITH 2010-145.

THIS IS OUR CURRICULUM INSTRUCTION AND ASSESSMENT CODES.

THESE CODES GENERALLY COVER CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT AND SUPERVISION COSTS PRIMARILY DONE OVER THE SUMMERTIME.

CURRICULUM WRITING OVER THE SUMMER AND CAN BE SPRINKLED OUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THESE COVER CURRICULAR CHANGES, STATE CHANGING IN STANDARDS, AND NEW COURSE DEVELOPMENTS OVER THE SUMMER, ALIGNING CURRICULUM, AND ANY NEW INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIKE.

THIS HISTORICAL EXPERIENCE IN THIS CODE HAS INCREASED OVER YEARS.

WE ARE KEEPING IT STEADY AS WE BUDGETED FOR LAST YEAR, KNOWING THAT WE CAN STILL COVER THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE THIS SUMMER AND ALSO RECOGNIZE THE TIGHT CONSTRAINTS OF THIS BUDGET YEAR.

NEXT CURRICULUM, MISCELLANEOUS AND CONTRACTUAL, COVERS CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT NEEDED TO COVER AND ADDRESS CURRICULUM AND PROFESSIONAL LEARNING RELATED TO THE DISTRICT GOALS AND STATE INITIATIVES.

>> I WILL MOVE ON TO C10.

2021-50 IS THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT FOR TEACHING AND LEARNING, A.K.A.

ME, A SALARY.

JUST TO NOTE THAT THE 24-25 BUDGETED SALARY IS A PRO-RATED SALARY BECAUSE I DID NOT START JULY 1ST HERE IN THE DISTRICT.

THE NEXT ARE BUILDING ADMINISTRATORS FOR 2021-50, 11 FTE IN TOTAL, AND ANY OF THE VARIANCES REFLECT TURNOVER AND CHANGES IN POSITION.

THEN NEXT, WE HAVE SOME CLERICAL ASSISTANT SALARIES HERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE BUDGET REFLECTS A 0.5 FTE INCREASE, BUT JUST TO NOTE THAT THIS ADDITION DOESN'T REFLECT AN OVERALL CLERICAL INCREASE, BUT RATHER IT IS A REPURPOSING OF CLERICAL STAFF THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED FOR.

THE NEXT ARE BUILDING CODES.

WE'RE GOING TO GET TO LARGE CLUMPS OF THESE THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION JUST TO NOTE ON HOW BUILDING BUDGETS ARE ALLOCATED.

EACH BUILDING IS ALLOCATED ON A PER PUPIL EXPENDITURE BASIS.

THE ALLOCATION IS BASED ON ENROLLMENT AND STUDENT NEED FACTORS SUCH AS SPECIAL EDUCATION, A FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH, AND THEN ENL SUPPORT NEEDS IN EACH BUILDING.

EACH BUILDING HAS THEIR OWN ALLOCATION, BUILDING PRINCIPALS DIVVY THIS UP INTO SEPARATE CODES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PARTICULAR BUILDING.

WE'LL SEE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH.

OF NOTE, THESE HAVE NOT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS JUST MOVING AROUND OF DIFFERENT MONIES IN AND OUT OF DIFFERENT CODES TO MEET THE NEXT YEAR'S NEEDS.

WE'LL SEE THOSE. AGAIN, I'LL BRING IT UP IN 2020 AND 2060, I BELIEVE, AND EVERY TIME, I'LL MENTION WHEN THEY'RE THE LOCAL BUILDING CODES.

THE 2060 CODES, THESE INCLUDES MONIES FOR TEACHERS ATTENDING CONFERENCES AND WORKSHOP RELATED TO DISTRICT GOALS, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, STATE INITIATIVE.

THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE DISTRICT'S TRAINING AND ANYTHING RELATED TO THE NEW INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMING FROM THE STATE.

WE HAVE LITERACY INITIATIVES, GRADUATING PATHWAYS INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMING, AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE CONTINUED NEED FOR PROFESSIONAL LEARNING.

WE ARE A LEARNING ORGANIZATION ANYWAY, AND RECOGNIZE THAT HIGH QUALITY PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT

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DIRECTLY IMPACTS TEACHER EFFECTIVENESS, STUDENT OUTCOMES, AND THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE ORGANIZATION.

WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT ANYWAY, AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH AND BE PREPARED FOR WHATEVER IS COMING FROM THE STATE.

2071-50, THESE ARE TEACHER SALARIES.

JUST TO NOTE HERE THAT WHEN THE BUDGET WAS COMPLETED LAST YEAR, THE TEACHER SALARIES WERE STILL IN NEGOTIATION.

YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M GOING TO REFER TO AS A DOUBLE BUMP IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE THAT REFLECTS THE TWO-YEAR INCREASE THAT WAS AGREED UPON IN LAST YEAR'S CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

I WILL REFER TO THE DOUBLE BUMP WHENEVER IT EXPLAINS AN INCREASE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF MY PRESENTATION.

MANY OF THESE ARE RELATED TO 2070 CODES, INCLUDE SALARIES FOR STAFF DEVELOPERS AND COORDINATORS.

THESE ARE THE ONES I'M TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE BUMPS HERE.

THE 2070 CODE FOR PROFESSIONAL LEARNING.

THAT'S CONTRACTUALLY FOR PROFESSIONAL LEARNING THAT ADMINISTRATORS ENGAGE IN THAT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT.

THEN WE HAVE SITE-BASED TRAINING.

AGAIN, THIS IS PROFESSIONAL LEARNING, AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE INCREASED PROFESSIONAL LEARNING NEEDS NEXT YEAR, WHERE THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE.

THEN FINALLY, MATERIALS INSTANCES IS 2074-50, RECOGNIZING THESE SUPPLIES NEEDED FOR IN-SERVICE TRAINING AND INSTRUCTION.

I'LL MOVE ON TO C12.

2110 REFLECTS A LOT OF OUR SALARY CODES.

WE'LL SEE TEACHER SALARIES K-5 AND THE 120, AND THIS WE'LL SEE THE DOUBLE BUMP THERE FOR THE TEACHER SALARIES ALL K-5.

2110-130 IS TEACHER SALARIES 6-12.

AGAIN, THIS REFLECTS THE DOUBLE BUMP THAT I REFERENCED BEFORE.

ALL TEACHER SALARIES ARE GOING TO BE THAT.

>> COULD YOU RUN THE DOUBLE BUMP CONCEPT PAST ME AGAIN?

>> YES. JIM WILL PROBABLY STEP IN IF I DON'T EXPLAIN IT WELL ENOUGH. LET ME TRY.

WHEN THE 24-25 BUDGET WAS FINALIZED, THE TEACHER CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WEREN'T.

WHEN THE FINALIZED TEACHER CONTRACT NEGOTIATION WAS A 2% BUMP, THAT WOULD BE RETROACTIVE TO 24-25.

WITH THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE RETROACTIVE INCREASE OF 2% AND SO THEREFORE, WE SEE DOUBLE THAT IN THE 25-26 BUDGET FOR ANY TEACHER SALARY CODE.

>> I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

>> THE BUDGET TO BUDGET.

>> CONVERSELY, YOU'D SEE REDUCTIONS IN AREAS WHERE THOSE FUNDS WERE HELD.

WHERE WE HAVE THOSE CONTINGENCY LINES THAT WERE SHARED WITH THE BOARD AND ARE SHARED WITH THE BOARD THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THE BOARD LAST YEAR HAD THAT INFORMATION KNOWING WHERE THAT MONEY WAS SITUATED IN THE BUDGET.

BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T PUT THAT IN THE GENERAL BUDGET BOOK BECAUSE THAT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THE BOARD HAS HELD FOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATION, SO THAT'S WHY WE MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE BOARD.

>> CAN I ADD ONE MORE PIECE, AND YOU'LL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS.

YOU SEE A MUCH SMALLER BUDGET TO BUDGET INCREASE FOR SECONDARY TEACHERS, AND THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE OF THE REDUCTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT, MORE OF THEM CAME FROM THE SECONDARY LEVEL.

JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.

>> FOR VETERAN RETIREMENTS THROUGH ATTRITION, THOSE SAVINGS WERE EARNED THROUGH ATTRITION THROUGH VETERAN RETIREMENTS.

STIPENDS. THE 2010-132 REFLECTS STIPENDS AND SOME EXTRA PAY POSITIONS IN THE DISTRICT.

FOR MORE VERY SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THESE PARTICULAR STIPENDS, YOU CAN GO TO APPENDIX FOR PAGE H2.

THOSE INCLUDE A COUPLE OF STIPEND ADDITIONS.

THE CULTURE COACHES WERE MOVED TO THIS STIPEND CODE, AND SO THEIR SALARIES WILL BE IN THERE.

THEN WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SUMMER PROGRAMS, AND THEN A TOILETING STIPEND THAT WAS ADDED OUT OF NECESSITY IN THAT CODE.

YOU'LL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THAT CODE.

MANDATED HOME INSTRUCTION FOR GENERAL ED STUDENTS IS IN THE NEXT CODE, MANDATE 2010-133.

HISTORICAL EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT THAT NEED IS INCREASING YEAR TO YEAR.

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WE'RE PLANNING AHEAD FOR THAT, AGAIN, SOMEWHAT SLIGHT INCREASE OF $4,000.

SUBSTITUTE TEACHER SALARIES 2110-140 KEEPING THE SAME.

WE ANTICIPATE A HIGHER EXPENDITURE THIS YEAR, BUT ARE RECOGNIZING THE CONSTRAINTS OF ABOVE ITS BUDGET, AND SO WE'RE LEAVING THAT AS IS.

WE HAVE OUR SALARIES AND CLERICAL SYSTEMS FOR THIS.

THIS IS MOSTLY ATTENDANCE AND PART OF THE REGISTER OFFICE.

THOSE SALARIES JUST REFLECT CONTRACTUAL INCREASES.

WE HAVE OUR 2110-163 LUNCH PROGRAM SUPERVISION.

AGAIN, INCREASING NEED THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT THAT WE CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR AND MEET.

WE ALSO HAVE CLERICAL SUBSTITUTES PLANNING FOR KEEPING THAT RELATIVELY THE SAME.

THEN ONE OF THE PLACES WHERE WE LOOK TO THINK DEEPLY ABOUT HOW WE CAN BE RESPONSIBLE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A TIGHTER BUDGET YEAR, BUT ALSO BE MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS IS IN THE NEXT CODE, WHICH IS 2110-200 DISTRICT-WIDE EQUIPMENT CODE.

WHAT THIS CODE LARGELY ACCOUNTS FOR IS THE FURNITURE.

WE'VE BEEN MOVING TO TRANSITIONAL CLASSROOMS TO FLEXIBLE FURNITURE.

IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

STILL COMMITTED TO DOING THIS AND JUST SLOWING DOWN THAT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT THE BOND PROJECT THAT'S UPCOMING, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PURCHASING FURNITURE THAT WILL NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SPACE THAT IT'S BEING PURCHASED FOR.

THINKING ABOUT SLOWING IT DOWN AND MAKING IT MUCH MORE PERSONALIZED PROCESS WITH TEACHERS AND BUILDINGS SO THAT THAT FURNITURE REALLY MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE TEACHERS AND STUDENTS.

CONTINUING THAT, SLOWING IT DOWN A BIT FOR NEXT YEAR BUT NOT AT ALL LOSING SIGHT OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT.

I'LL MOVE ON TO C13 2110-400.

YOU'LL SEE A PRETTY HEFTY INCREASE IN THIS CODE, AND THIS REFLECTS OUR NEED TO INCREASE OUR RESIDENCY INVESTIGATION RESOURCES.

HISTORICAL EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT THAT HAS REQUIRED MORE AND MORE ATTENTION, AND SO WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT SAME TYPE OF OUTLOOK NEXT YEAR.

2110-400, THESE NEXT GROUP OF CODES ARE AGAIN, THESE LOCAL BUILDING CODES THAT I ADDRESSED EARLIER, THAT THE ALLOCATION IS DEPENDENT UPON ENROLLMENT AND STUDENT NEED.

YOU'LL SEE THAT FOR MOST OF ALL OF THESE CODES, THERE'S VERY SMALL VARIATIONS IF ANYTHING, WE'RE SHUFFLING MONEY IN AND OUT OF CODES TO MEET THE NEEDS.

I WILL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO 2110-430.

THIS WAS ANOTHER CODE WHERE WE THOUGHT DEEPLY ABOUT MAINTAINING STUDENT EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING TIGHT FISCAL RESTRAINTS.

THIS IS OUR INTERN SUPPORT CODE.

EVERY YEAR, WE TRY TO RECRUIT AND HIRE INTERNS TO WORK THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT TO SUPPORT OUR ADMINISTRATORS, OUR STUDENTS.

IN 24-25, WE BUDGETED FOR SEVEN INTERNS BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HIRE SEVEN, AND SO WE ARE JUST RECOGNIZING AND ANALYZING THE HISTORICAL EXPERIENCE.

WE'RE DECREASING THAT NUMBER TO FOUR, HOPING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HIRE AND RETAIN FOUR FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

>> I'M SORRY. HOW MANY WERE YOU ABLE TO SECURE THIS YEAR?

>> I'LL LET YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

THEN 2110-450 AGAIN, THESE ARE CLASSROOM MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES THAT ARE ALLOCATED AT THE BUILDING LEVEL.

WE'LL MOVE TO C14.

DISTRICT-WIDE MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.

ONE THING OF NOTE HERE IS RECOGNIZING THE SCIENCE STANDARDS THAT ARE CHANGING.

CHEMISTRY IS COMPLETELY CHANGING NEXT YEAR, SO WE WANT TO BE SURE TO BUDGET FOR THE NEW SUPPLIES AND SCIENCE RESOURCES THAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE NEW CHEMISTRY CURRICULUM NEXT YEAR.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL BE A ONE-TIME UPFRONT RESOURCE BUY FOR THIS, AND THEN THE BUILDING CAN MAINTAIN THAT IN THE FUTURE.

THE NEXT 2110-471-472,

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THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN BUDGETED FOR, BUT I THINK IT'S GONE IN AND OUT OF THIS BUDGET LINE.

BUT I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY A VERY GOOD SOURCE THAT IT'S GOING TO STAY HERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT.

THAT EXPLAINS THE INCREASE OF $6,500.

THIS IS TUITION FOR SUMMER REGIONS EXAMS. THEN EVERY SO OFTEN, WE HAVE A PELHAM RESIDENT STUDENT WHO THEY OR THEIR PARENTS CHOOSE TO SEND THEM TO A CHARTER SCHOOL, AND WE ARE CHARGED FOR THEIR TUITION.

WE HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THAT AS WELL, AND THAT'S 2110-473.

THE NEXT SEVERAL LINES, 2110-480.

THESE ARE MOSTLY TEXTBOOK CODES, TEXTBOOK RESOURCES.

WE ARE PURCHASING A FEW NEW TEXTBOOKS NEXT YEAR.

WE HAVE THE AP US HISTORY TEXT THAT HAS BEEN OUTDATED, AND SO WE ARE REPLACING THAT FOR NEXT YEAR, WHICH EXPLAINS SOMEWHAT OF THAT INCREASE.

THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER TEXTS THAT WILL BE PURCHASED FOR NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AS WELL, SO THERE'S SMALL INCREASES THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO JUMP NOW TO PAGE C23.

PAGE C23, WE START WITH 2610 LIBRARY SUPPORT STAFF.

THESE ARE OUR LIBRARY TEACHING ASSISTANTS AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, AND THEN ALSO THE SECONDARY LIBRARY TEACHERS.

FOR THAT INCREASE CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE CONTRACTUAL DOUBLE BUMP THEORY THAT WE ADDRESSED EARLIER.

THEN WE HAVE OUR AMAZING AV STAFF.

CHRIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT IS OUR AV SUPPORT FOR OUR MEETINGS.

THEN WE END WITH SOME BUILDING CODES.

THE INCREASE HERE WOULD BE DRIVEN BY TEACHER SALARY AND THE DOUBLE BUMPS.

THEN I THINK MY LAST PAGE IS C26.

CO-CURRICULAR STIPENDS.

THESE ARE STIPENDS FOR SUPERVISING CO-CURRICULAR PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, CLUBS, PROGRAMS, LEARNING EXPERIENCES THAT COMPLEMENT AND ENRICH, AND ENHANCE THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE OUTSIDE OF THE REGULAR SCHOOL DAY.

THESE BUDGET VARIANCES OR INCREASES CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE INCREASE OF THE CONTRACTUAL DOUBLE BUMP THEORY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE DETAIL ON THAT, YOU MIGHT MAKE A NOTE THAT YOU CAN FIND THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION FOR THESE CO-CURRICULAR STIPENDS ON APPENDIX 4, PAGES H4-H6.

>> I THINK I'M DONE. BUT WE'LL LOOK FOR CONFIRMATION FROM THE BOSSES OVER THERE.

>> IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, AND IF WE CAN'T ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS TODAY, OR IF YOU THINK OF THESE QUESTIONS AFTER THE MEETING, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE WITH THE BOARD AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

I THINK WHICHEVER WAY THE BOARD THINKS BEST, WHETHER WE DO IT AT A MEETING OR JUST SIT TO IN WRITTEN FORM.

>> I WOULD JUST ADD, THANKS TO DR. CALLAHAN FOR DOING A THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION TO THE PERSONAL GROWTH AND ACHIEVEMENT COMMITTEE TODAY, WHICH EXPLAINS A LOT OF THE CHANGES IN SCIENCE THAT YOU SEE NOW REFLECTED IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES TO UPGRADE TO THE NEW STANDARDS IS CRITICAL.

THANK YOU FOR THE PLANNING AND FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I KNOW MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE THERE AND GOT A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE CHANGES.

>> I THINK WITH THAT, WE'RE READY TO TRANSITION TO MR. CEBALLOS ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY.

>> MR. CEBALLOS HAS GOT A GREAT PRESENTATION.

HE GAVE US A SNEAK PREVIEW.

WE WOULD START ON C24 AS WELL, AND HIS BUDGET WOULD BE FOUNDED TWO DIFFERENT AREAS, C24 AND UNDER THE BOSS'S TAB OF THE BUDGET BOOK.

BUT I THINK HE'S GOING TO COVER PROBABLY 85% OF IT RIGHT HERE IN HIS PRESENTATION.

I HOPE I DIDN'T GIVE TOO MUCH AWAY, JOHN.

>> WE'RE GOOD TO HERE?

>> PERFECT. I LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TECH PROFILE FOR THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THE COMMUNITY TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING FROM THIS CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR GOING INTO THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AND WHAT WE'RE THINKING OF MOVING FORWARD.

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THE OVERVIEW FOR TONIGHT, I ALWAYS LIKE TO START WITH A QUOTE, AND ONE OF MY FAVORITES IS FROM GEORGE COUROS, "CULTURE OF INNOVATION FOR STUDENTS CANNOT BE CREATED THROUGH A CULTURE OF COMPLIANCE FOR ADULTS." I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE THINK OF THESE QUOTES, THEY'RE CATCHY, THEY'RE BUZZY, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART WHEN IT COMES TO MY ROLE STARTING WITH OUR STAFF FIRST, OUR LEADERSHIP, OUR TEACHERS FIRST, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR STUDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IN OUR PROFILE TONIGHT, I WILL RUN THROUGH THIS.

I'M NOT GOING TO DWELL IN IT BECAUSE I KNOW WE WANT TO GET TO THE LINE BY LINE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WITH THE NEW BOARD THAT WE HAVE, A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW I'D LIKE TO RUN THROUGH THIS.

I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE TECH PROFILE, WHAT WE HAVE IN TECHNOLOGY, OUR INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY GOALS AND HOW THEY ALIGN WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, PROJECTS FROM THIS YEAR, HOW TECHNOLOGY IS GROWING, THE STAFFING THAT COMPLETES IT, THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE LINE BY LINE BUDGET.

BEFORE WE EVEN GET STARTED, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS WAS MENTIONED YET IN PUBLIC, BUT LAST WEEK, WE GOT TO HONOR ONE OF OUR OWN, ALICIA DELMASTRO, OUR K-12 INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST.

SHE WAS A RECIPIENT OF THE LYRIC TELL AWARD.

IT'S A REALLY PRESTIGIOUS AWARD THAT'S GIVEN IN THE REGION, RECOGNIZES LEADERSHIP, ENHANCING TECHNOLOGY AND TEACHING THROUGH LEARNING.

WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF HER. SHE COMES FROM A LONG LIST OF RECIPIENTS IN PELHAM.

I'M GLAD THAT SHE GETS TO HONOR AND CONTINUE THAT TRADITION.

IT WAS ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED AT THE HOL AWARDS, WHICH IS REALLY FITTING.

IT'S THE SUPPORT OF THIS BOARD THAT ACTUALLY KEEPS THIS POSITION GOING, AND I THINK THE DIVIDENDS HERE AND HER WINNING THIS AWARD AND BEING A LEADER IN OUR REGION SHOWS EVERYTHING THAT'S, FROM YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU AGAIN. IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY PROFILE, THIS IS FUNNY.

THIS IS FROM MY SECOND YEAR.

I LIKE TO ALWAYS THROW THIS COMPARISON ONTO HERE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROFILE, IT LOOKS SMALLER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT LAPTOPS, DESKTOPS, IPADS, CHROMEBOOKS, AND SO FORTH.

WHEN WE GET INTO THE PROFILE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS YEAR, IT ALMOST LOOKS DOUBLED.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO DRAW ATTENTION TO BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DELTA FROM LAST YEAR, IS I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT TO THE PHYSICAL SERVERS AND VIRTUAL SERVERS, AND I SHOULD HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE VIRTUAL PART.

LAST YEAR, ONE OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS WAS ACTUALLY VIRTUALIZING OUR ENTIRE SERVER ENVIRONMENT EXCEPT FOR TWO.

THE ONLY PHYSICAL SERVERS THAT WE KEEP ON PREM RIGHT NOW ARE CAMERA SERVERS.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN A VIRTUAL ENVIRONMENT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHY THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US IN TERMS OF NOT JUST REDUNDANCY, BUT CYBERSECURITY AND SAFETY AS WELL.

YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE MIFI ACCESS, VISITOR ACCESS, PRINTERS, USERS, THE PHYSICAL LOCATIONS, SCANNERS, AND COPIERS, AND WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE REFRESH.

WHAT EXACTLY DO WE HAVE IN POEM? EVERY CLASSROOM HAS AN INTERACTIVE DISPLAY, A DOCKING STATION, IPV DOCUMENT CAMERAS.

THERE'S A STAND ALONE LAPTOP IN ALL OF OUR 6-12 PODIUM DISPLAYS.

THEN IN THE K-5, THE TEACHERS USE THEIR LAPTOPS AND THEY JUST PLUG THEM IN, THEY COME AND GO, AND THE SECONDARY HAS THE SAME MODEL AS WELL.

ALL INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF IN THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A DEDICATED MOBILE DEVICE.

WE'RE TRUE ONE-TO -ONE PROGRAM IN A 6-12, WHERE STUDENTS ARE COMING AND GOING WITH THEIR DEVICES, AND WE HAVE CARTS IN THE K-5.

WE'RE FULLY DIGITAL WITH ALL OF OUR REPORT CARDS NOW, K-12 WITH PARENT ACCESS.

WE HAVE FIVE IPADS FOR EACH K-1 CLASSROOM, AND WE HAVE A REALLY EXPANSIVE SUITE OF INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE LYRIC WHEN IT COMES TO OUR PARENT AND STUDENT SUPPORT.

THAT'S BEEN A REALLY VITAL PART OF OUR OPERATIONS OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

HOW DO WE MAKE IT ALL WORK? AGAIN, THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT IS OUR DEDICATED K-12 INSTRUCTIONAL TECH SPECIALIST, OF ALL THE COACHES IN HERE, SHE IS THE ONE THAT GOES K-12, SO I DO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

BUT A CONSISTENT REFRESH CYCLE IN OUR FIFTH AND 9TH GRADE, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW, SO THAT WAY, EVERY FOUR YEARS, WE'RE CONTINUING TO GET NEW DEVICES.

THERE'S NO DEVICE, EXCEPT FOR OUR CURRENT SENIORS RIGHT NOW.

BUT EVERY DEVICE RIGHT NOW IS ONLY THREE OR FOUR YEARS-OLD.

WE'RE GOING TO START TO REFRESH AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

WE HAVE A DEDICATED JUNIOR NETWORK TECHNICIAN TO ASSIST WITH THE ONE TO ONE PROGRAM ON THE SECONDARY CAMPUS.

WE'RE CONTINUALLY GIVING PD FOR OUR STAFF, DAY TO DAY MAINTENANCE OF OUR SOFTWARE PROGRAMS, AND WE'RE A REALLY BIG PARTNER OF THE LYRIC, THE LOWER HUDSON REGIONAL INFORMATION CENTER FOR ALL OF OUR TECHNOLOGY.

WHAT SUPPORTS AND WHAT DRIVES A LOT OF WHAT WE DO AT OUR PELHAM TECHNOLOGY GOALS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WITH HERE IS, THIS IS THE LAST YEAR OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY PLAN.

STARTING NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THESE GOALS, AND WE'RE GOING TO CREATE NEW ONES.

THEY ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WORKS WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT CURRICULUM INSTRUCTION, DIGITAL CITIZENSHIP INFLUENCING AND DATA DATA PRIVACY AND SECURITY, ALL THREE ALIGN WITHIN

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OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT PILLARS THAT WE HAVE.

THESE ARE A LOT OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS FROM THIS YEAR, AND I DON'T WANT TO READ IT LINE BY LINE.

I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE MAJOR ONES THAT I THINK ARE REALLY BIG.

OBVIOUSLY, THE VIRTUAL SERVER MIGRATION AND OUR WINDOWS 11 MIGRATION.

WE ALSO GOT BRAND NEW XEROX MACHINES FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS THIS YEAR, AND THAT WAS A JOINT VENTURE WITH THE BUSINESS OFFICE AND THE LYRIC.

WE HAVE NEW FIVE YEAR LEASES ON ALL OF THOSE DEVICES.

STARTING THIS SPRING, WE HAVE A MAJOR ERATE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING.

WHAT IS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT? ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS OUTSIDE OF HUTCHINSON AND PROSPECT, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS A FLOOD A YEAR OR TWO AGO, WE'LL BE GETTING BRAND NEW SWITCHES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE UPGRADING ALL OF THOSE, SO THAT WAY WE CAN ADD MORE CAMERAS, MORE DEVICES, MORE WIRELESS ACCESS POINTS.

IT'S NEEDED, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE COMING TO END OF LIFE.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IS OUR AI USER GROUP AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THERE.

I SPOKE ABOUT THIS WITH THE SERVER MIGRATION, OUR UPGRADE TO WINDOWS 11 INTUNE, OUR ERATE PROJECT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW TECHNOLOGY IS GROWING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY BECOME VERY ENCOMPASSING WITHIN MY ROLE IS THE ROLE AS THE DATA PROTECTION OFFICER.

A LOT OF MY JOB IS LOOKING AT VENDOR CONTRACTS, WORKING WITH OUR LHRIC.

YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT MOVING A LOT OF OUR SOFTWARE FROM LOCAL OVER TO THE LHRIC, THERE'S A REASON WHY.

THEY ENTER INTO STATE AGREEMENTS, SO THEY HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT LOOK AT THE CONTRACTS, SO THAT WAY THEY'RE SAFE FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF THAT MIGRATION.

BUT ON TOP OF THAT EXPANSION OF THE ROLE OF DATA PRIVACY OFFICER, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT MORE COLLABORATION AND MORE VENTURES WITH THE BUSINESS AND FACILITIES OFFICE.

OUR TRANSITIONS FROM ANALOG TO DIGITAL, VERIZON, EMERGENCY 911 CAMERAS, HVAC, VOLP.

ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY DIRECTLY IMPACT TEACHING AND LEARNING, BUT THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF OUR SCHOOL.

WHEN WE LOOK AT TEACHING AND LEARNING AND WE'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR INFINITE CAMPUS EXPANSION, PARENT SQUARE, OUR PARENT HELP DESK.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ALSO EXPAND WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

THIS IS OUR TECHNOLOGY ORGANIZATION CHART.

I'M VERY LUCKY TO WORK WITH SOME OF THE MOST TALENTED PEOPLE, PROBABLY IN THE REGION.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TURNOVER FROM OUR LHRIC STAFF, WHICH WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GROW AND DEVELOP THEIR SKILLS AND WE HAVE A REALLY HIGH CLOSURE RATE, WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IN A MINUTE.

IT'S ALL SUPPORTED BY WHAT'S A PART OF WHAT'S CALLED LHRIC MANAGED IT, AND THERE'S AN EMPHASIS ON STAFF AND FAMILIES TO USE A HELP DESK.

THE ONGOING JOKE IS, DID YOU PUT IN A HELP DESK TICKET? I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE USED TO THAT IN YOUR ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US THOUGH AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHY, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO PROJECT MANAGE, SEE TRENDS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND A LOT OF THESE INCIDENTS CAN BE RESOLVED REMOTELY.

WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE INCIDENT CLOSURE RATE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S OUR CLOSURE RATE FROM LAST YEAR, BUT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT OUR CLOSURE RATE TO THIS YEAR, THE SAME DAY HAS GONE UP BY ALMOST 10%.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN.

OUR INCIDENTS HAVE GONE UP ABOUT 7%, SO WE'RE HANDLING EVEN MORE VOLUME, AND WE'RE ABLE TO CLOSE AT A QUICKER RATE.

OUR TEAMS ARE WORKING REALLY EFFECTIVELY, THE SYSTEM VERTICALS AT THE LHRIC ARE WORKING REALLY EFFECTIVELY AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE STUFF GOING DOWN BELOW GOING UP, WE WANT TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS GOING DOWN, WHICH YOU SEE GOING ACROSS. YES.

>> THAT STUDENT [INAUDIBLE]

>> THIS IS EVERYBODY. STUDENTS, STAFF, PARENTS, THE WHOLE THING.

WE ARE SEEING QUICKER CLOSURE INCIDENT RATE ACROSS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT, WHICH IS A REALLY BIG TESTAMENT TO THE TEAM THAT WORKS WITH ME.

HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, OBVIOUSLY, THE CONTINUATION OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL TECH SPECIALIST, THE REFRESH OF OUR ONE-TO-ONE PROGRAM.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS YEAR ARE GOING TO BE THE BOTTOM SIX ITEMS. ON TOP OF THE ERATE PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO UPGRADE OUR UPS OR UNINTERRUPTABLE POWER SUPPLY.

THERE'S BETTER BATTERY SERVICES AND LONGER UP-TIME.

WHAT HAPPENS IS IF THERE'S A POWER OUTAGE IN PELHAM, WE CAN ACTUALLY KEEP A LOT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE UP TO DATE AND KEEP THEM POWERED UP A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

WE'RE GOING TO BE UPGRADING THOSE OVER THE SUMMER.

DR. FITZGERALD MAY SPEAK TO THIS WHEN IT COMES TO HERS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE INCLUDING A FRONTLINE HR MODULE.

THAT MODULE IS BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

WE HAVE A PRODUCT CALLED INFINITE CAMPUS WORKFLOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ALSO BUDGETING FOR THIS YEAR.

IT ALLOWS DIGITAL HALL PASSES, WHICH IS GOING TO BE REALLY NICE FOR THE SECONDARY CAMPUS.

IT ALSO HELPS WITH EVENTS, ATTENDANCE FOR PARENTS.

THEY'RE ABLE TO PUT IN THEIR OWN ATTENDANCE REQUESTS IN THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PENETRATION TESTING.

ONCE WE UPGRADE ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S A REALLY BIG COMPONENT FOR NIST CYBERSECURITY FRAMEWORK,

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AND YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO THAT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, YOUR PENETRATION TESTING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR ENVIRONMENT IS SAFE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT UPGRADING OUR LIBRARY SOFTWARE, SO MORE SPECIFICALLY THE CATALOG SYSTEM, AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT AI TOOLS TO PILOT AND CONTINUE WITH OUR AI USER GROUP.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MAJOR HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS YEAR WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LINE BY LINE.

OUR HISTORICAL SPENDING IN TECHNOLOGY.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE AND, WE DO A LOT WITH A LITTLE.

WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF THE TECHNOLOGY SPEND, IT'S A LITTLE OVER 3% OF THE BUDGET.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK FROM 18, 19-20, SO WHERE WE'RE GOING FOR NEXT YEAR, IT'S ONLY GONE UP A HALF A PERCENT IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL SPEND.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT IN PELHAM WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN OFFERING SOME OF THE BEST AND MOST UNIQUE SERVICES IN THE REGION, AND WE DO IT VERY RESPONSIBLY.

I THINK WE'RE VERY THOUGHTFUL, BALANCING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY VERSUS OUR COSTS, AND I THINK WE DELIVER TOP NOTCH SERVICES FOR EVERYBODY HERE.

NOW, WHEN WE GO INTO THE TECHNOLOGY BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE LINE BY LINE.

THIS WAS A BOOK READ FOR US A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO USE IT AS A POOR FOR US WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ZERO-BASE BUDGETING AND STARTING WITH OUR WHY, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT REALLY HELPS DRIVE.

WHAT? WHY ARE WE DOING THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING? WHY ARE WE SPENDING THIS KIND OF MONEY? LOOKING AT OUR TECHNOLOGY GOALS AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS CONTINUING TO DO IS LOOK AT WAYS TO PARTNER WITH THE LHRIC AND BOCES FOR PURCHASING.

IF YOU HEARD MR. RICKY SPEAK TODAY, I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE A LOT OF OUR PURCHASING FROM LOCAL OVER TO THOSE BOCES LINES.

I'LL GIVE YOU A HIGHLIGHT AS TO WHY WE DO IT.

THERE ARE CERTAIN STATE AID PERCENTAGES THAT WE GET BACK AS WE DO THAT, AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, BEING COMPLIANT WITH LAW 2D AND KEEPING UP WITH OUR DATA PRIVACY AND SECURITY.

LET'S GO, SORRY.

>> QUICK QUESTION. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, BUT, THE FIFTH GRADE AND THE NINTH GRADES OF TECHNOLOGY REFRESH. THAT'S CHROMEBOOKS.

>> CHROMEBOOKS ARE THE DEVICE FROM GRADE 5-12.

>> THE DEVICE K-12, AND IT IS A CHROMEBOOK, BUT THEY'RE ALL TOUCH SCREEN DEVICE AS WELL.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT A LOT OF DISTRICTS IN OUR REGION HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WENT CBT IS NOT EVERYONE BOUGHT TOUCH SCREEN DEVICES.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE IRRESPONSIBLE.

I TRIED TO FORECAST WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, AND I REALLY THOUGHT, PAYING A LITTLE BIT EXTRA MONEY FOR THE TOUCHSCREEN FOR US, FOR THE CBT HAS BEEN REALLY VITAL AND IT HAS HELPED IN OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

SOME OF THE SCHOOLS HAVE REALLY STRUGGLED WHEN IT'S JUST USING THE TRACK PAD, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET TO THIRD GRADE.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOUGH, BUT HAVING THE TOUCHSCREEN HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CBT.

>> I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THIS TOO.

>> NO, IT'S OKAY.

>>IT'S JUST VERY LATE AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL PEOPLE'S TIME.

BUT DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON WHETHER THE CHROMEBOOK OS, THAT SOFTWARE ENVIRONMENT IS THE RIGHT ONE FOR A 12TH GRADER? I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DO YOU THINK THERE'S A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD THAT MAYBE THERE'S LIKE A TIGHT A LOCKDOWN WINDOWS MACHINE THAT COULD BE USED BY A TENTH GRADE OR 11TH GRADE 12 GRADER? BECAUSE THINGS LIKE EXCEL, POWERPOINT, YOU ARE USEFUL IN THE WORKPLACE, OR ARE WE COMMITTED TO CHROMEBOOKS?

>> NO, WE COULD STILL BE COMMITTED TO THE CHROMEBOOK, BUT STILL USE THE OFFICE SUITE IN THE CHROME OS.

IN OFFICE 365, IT'S ALL WEB BASED.

>> OH, THAT EXISTS FOR CHROME.

>> IT DOES.

>> INTERESTING.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STARTED TO DO STARTING LAST YEAR WITH THE PURCHASE AND MOVING FORWARD IS WE WENT FROM FOUR GIG TO EIGHT GIG.

THERE'S A LARGER MEMORY ON ALL OF OUR CHROMEBOOK DEVICES, SO IT IS ABLE TO ACTUALLY RUN THE MICROSOFT OFFICE SUITE.

WE HAVEN'T DONE A LOT OF IT BECAUSE OUR ENVIRONMENT IS IN GOOGLE.

BUT I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE HIGHER ELECTIVES.

I KNOW SPECIFICALLY WITHIN DR. CALLAHAN SCIENCE RESEARCH PROGRAM, AND SOME OF THE PHYSICS COURSES, WE DO HAVE DEDICATED WINDOWS LAPTOPS THAT ARE IN THERE FOR THE KIDS TO USE.

BUT THEY CAN START TO ACCESS SOME OF THE OFFICE 365 SUITE.

WE DO HAVE LICENSES FOR THEM.

THEY'RE NOT ADDITIONAL COSTS.

THEY ALREADY COME WITH THE ACTIVE DIRECTORY ACCOUNT.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THANKS.

>> OF COURSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAW? EXCELLENT. LET'S GO INTO THE LINE BY LINE.

I'M SORRY, I'M GOING INTO MY PHYSICAL PAPER.

LET'S GO WITH THIS, FLIP THAT OVER.

MY BUDGET STARTS ON C24.

>> THERE WE GO. CHRIS, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME LIKE THIS? SORRY.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> NO, THERE'S NOTHING.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ME SPEAKING.

LET'S GO THROUGH 150 AND 160, WHICH IS MY SALARY AND THE SUPPORT STAFF.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SUPPORT STAFF.

THERE'S A NOTE IN THERE THAT THERE'S A VARIANCE FOR A STAFFING VACANCY AND PLAN REDUCTION FTE.

THAT WAS JANET EGAN.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, WE ARE GOING TO BE TRANSITIONING THAT POSITION TO BE SHARED WITH OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.

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A LOT OF JANET'S POSITION HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK WITH HR WHEN IT COMES TO ONBOARDING AND OFFBOARDING.

WHAT WE FOUND OUT WAS THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION, NOT JUST WITHIN HR, BUT ALSO THE BUSINESS OFFICE IN PAYROLL.

WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION THAT POSITION TO CREATE A SAVINGS FOR THE DISTRICT AND ALSO INCREASE OUR PRODUCTIVITY ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT 220, THAT LINE IS FOR HARDWARE.

WHAT DO I MEAN BY HARDWARE? I'M GOING TO REFERENCE SPECIFICALLY LINES 220 AND 450 WHEN WE GET TO BOCES.

WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL SPEND AND THE ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, WE DON'T SPEND THAT FULLY.

THESE ARE FOR, IF I WANT TO BUY SOMETHING LOCALLY LAST MINUTE LIKE LAPTOPS, DESKTOPS, AND INTERACTIVE DISPLAY, I HAVE LOCAL MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

NINETY-FIVE PERCENT OF THE TIME, I'M NOT USING THAT LINE FOR IT.

I'M TRYING TO PURCHASE THAT THROUGH BOCES.

WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF PURCHASING THROUGH BOCES VERSUS PURCHASING DIRECTLY WITH US? IT'S THE WARRANTY, THE SUPPORT, AND THEN JUST THE STATE AID THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO GET BACK ON THAT PURCHASE, WHICH MR. RICKY WILL ALSO SPEAK ABOUT.

WE GET THAT BACK IN THE SECOND YEAR WHEN WE PURCHASE THROUGH BOCES.

THAT'S WHY WE DON'T REALLY TRY TO SPEND A LOT OF THAT MONEY IN THERE.

LET'S GO DOWN TO THE CONTRACTUAL, WHICH IS 400 AND 420.

WHEN WE LOOK AT MAINTENANCE, SUPPORT, AND EXPANSION, THAT INCLUDES A NETWORK CONSULTANT, MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, XEROX PRINT MANAGEMENT, OUR SUBSCRIPTIONS, OUR E-RATE CONSULTANT, AND IT SAYS THAT IT'S AN AREA OF BUDGET CONTINGENCY.

I KNOW MR. RICKY WILL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT AS WELL BECAUSE YOU MIGHT SEE THAT POP UP THROUGH AREAS, BUT THAT'S ALSO A LINE THAT'S NOT HEAVILY SPENT.

AGAIN, WE TRY TO USE AT A LOT OF OUR PURCHASING THROUGH BOCES, BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY, THAT E-RATE CONSULTANT FEE THAT WE USED, THAT ACTUALLY HELPED US WITH OUR BIDDING FOR THE E-RATE PROJECT THAT WE GOT THIS YEAR, AND THE XEROX AND OUR PRINT SERVICES ACTUALLY COME OUT OF THERE.

THE 420 FOR THE STAFF DEVELOPMENT IS FLAT.

WE USE THAT FOR SUMMER CURRICULUM WRITING AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

FOR LINE 450, THAT'S OUR MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES BUDGET.

THAT WAS A FAIRLY NEW BUDGET FROM WHEN I STARTED.

IT NEVER REALLY EXISTED, BUT IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WITH 220 AND 450, PICTURE 220 IS BEING A LARGER ITEMS, I WOULD SAY, LIKE $500 OR MORE, 450 IS FOR SMALLER ITEMS, CHROMEBOOK, CORDS, CASES, FLASH DRIVES, HEADSETS, THOSE LITTLE MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS THAT YOU COULD THINK OF THAT WORK ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

THAT'S WHAT WE USE THAT LINE ITEM FOR, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ALSO NOTICE WE DON'T TRY TO FULLY SPEND THAT LINE BECAUSE WE TRY TO PROCURE AS MUCH AS WE CAN THROUGH BOCES.

THE LAST LINE THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT IS GOING TO BE OUR COMPUTER SOFTWARE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A CHANGE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR OF $9,000, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT THAT IS.

AGAIN, THAT'S PENDING BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE A BUDGET TRANSFER WITH THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING TO UPGRADE IS OUR LIBRARY SOFTWARE, SPECIFICALLY OUR CATALOG SYSTEM.

WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE A SWITCH TO SOMETHING CALLED FOLLETT, WHICH IS SUPPORTED THROUGH SW BOCES.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO JUST CHANGE WHAT WE'RE USING FOR OUR CATALOG SYSTEM FOR NEXT YEAR FOR OUR BOOKS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> SURE.

>> JUST A SHORT ONE, CLARIFYING QUESTION.

THE EXPECTED EXPENDITURES ARE LOWER, AND THEN IT GOES BACK UP.

CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT FOR THIS YEAR VERSUS NEXT YEAR?

>> SURE. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN FOR ME, PLEASE?

>> I'M USING WILLS FINDER. [LAUGHTER]

>> NO. THAT'S FINE.

>> THE ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES ARE LOWER THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN IT GOES UP BACK TO AN INCREASE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.

>> SURE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 460, WE KEEP A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER IN THERE FOR PILOT PROGRAMS, AND NOT ONLY DO WE KEEP THAT IN THERE FOR PILOT PROGRAMS, THAT'S ALSO REFLECTING A TRANSITION OF SOFTWARE THAT USED TO BE SPENT LOCALLY AND THAT GOT MOVED OVER TO BOCES.

I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WHEN WE GET TO APPENDIX 5, AND WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE I'VE MOVED OVER $110,000 OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS OVER TO THOSE BOCES LINES.

WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET VERSUS THE ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK EVEN LAST YEAR, IT GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOES UP, BUT THAT TRANSITION FROM THAT LINE IS CONSISTENTLY GOING DOWN.

WE JUST PUT THAT IN THERE AND THEN WE'LL DO A BUDGET TRANSFER MID YEAR, SO THAT WAY WE'RE ABLE TO REFLECT THAT.

>> THERE'S A TRANSFER TONIGHT, WHICH WE'RE DOING SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

JUST IN THE BOARD ACTIONS, I CAN CERTAINLY POINT THAT OUT WHEN THAT COMES UP.

>> IT'S HARD TO REFLECT THAT ON THE APPENDIX 5 BECAUSE WE DON'T CONTROL THOSE LINES,

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THOSE ARE DIRECTLY FROM BOCES.

THIS ALLOWS US AS A DISTRICT, WE HAVE MONEY THAT WE'RE ENCUMBERING TO PURCHASE, AND THEN WE CAN TRANSFER THAT OVER TO BOCES.

SOMETIMES THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THAT DELTA IN THERE AS WELL.

>> OF COURSE. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS WITH THAT PART, THE HEAVIER PART IS GOING TO COME IN APPENDIX 5.

IF WE CAN GO TO APPENDIX 5, AND IT'S GOING TO BE BOCES.

LET'S NOT LOOK AT THE FIRST TWO PAGES ON ONE AND TWO, OR THREE.

LET'S GO TO WHAT'S CALLED THE LYRIC RFS.

I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN A LOT OF THIS IN HERE.

THIS IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF MY PURCHASING IS DONE WITH.

YOU'VE HEARD ME CONTINUALLY SPEAK ABOUT HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE OUR PURCHASING INTO HERE.

THE BOCES RFS IS ACTUALLY FOR THIS YEAR, IT'S ONLY BROKEN DOWN INTO WHAT'S CALLED CO-SERS.

CO-SERS ARE RULES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED BY NEW YORK STATE.

IN PELHAM, WE ABIDE BY FOUR CO-SERS THAT I OVERSEE DIRECTLY ON THE LYRIC RFS, THE REQUEST FOR SERVICES.

THE FIRST ONE IS 510, WHICH IS INSTRUCTIONAL TECH, 554, WHICH IS MODEL SCHOOLS, 611, WHICH IS MANAGEMENT SERVICES, AND 612, WHICH IS IN TELEPATH.

IN 510, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK IN INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY, THAT LISTS ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE BELONG TO THAT WE SUBSCRIBED TO IN PELHAM.

LEARNING A-Z, DELTAMATH, SCORE, GOGUARDIAN, WEVIDEO, TINKER, AND SO FORTH.

WHAT THAT SHOWS YOU IS LINE BY LINE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE'RE PURCHASING, AND THE AMOUNT OF LICENSES THAT WE'RE BUYING.

FOR SOME OF THOSE SOFTWARES, IT'S FOR THE FULL DISTRICT, FOR SOME OF THEM, IT'S K-8.

FOR SOME OF THEM, IT'S K-5.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO LINE BY LINE ON EVERY PIECE OF SOFTWARE.

WHAT I DO WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ARE GOING TO BE REALLY BIG CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING UP FOR THIS YEAR.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CHANGE OF ABOUT $10,000.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ELIMINATING ONE OF THE SOFTWARES ON HERE, LEARNING A TO Z.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A REMOVAL.

AGAIN, THIS RFS IS FROM JANUARY 7. I SHOULD HAVE LED WITH THAT.

THERE WILL BE A FINAL RFS THAT COMES FORWARD TO YOU IN MAY, WHERE IT WILL REFLECT A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT I'M SPEAKING OF TONIGHT.

IT JUST ALLOWS US TO WORK WITH THE LYRIC, AND THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL RUN THAT COMES OUT.

THAT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING ON IS SCHOOL AI, AND WHAT WE'RE BUYING IS SOME PILOT LICENSES TO USE WITH OUR TEACHERS.

THAT WILL BE ADDED ONTO THERE.

THAT'S AT A COST OF $6,000.

THAT WILL BE THE ONLY LARGE CHANGE THAT YOU SEE WITHIN 510 THAT I'M LOOKING AT.

THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IF YOU WERE TO GO TO PAGE ONE, THERE'S NO NUMBERS THERE ON THE TOP RIGHT.

IF YOU WERE TO GO TO PAGE 3 OF THE RFS UNDER 510, THIS IS JUST A CHANGE OF WHERE THEY'RE BILLING US.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT 510, 220 NETWORKING SUPPORT, THE WAY THAT WE USED TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR MITT, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SALARIES FOR MY TECHNOLOGY STAFF, IT USED TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN 510 AND 611.

WHY DID THEY USE TO DO THAT? I'M SORRY.

I'M GOING A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER HERE.

WHEN YOU PUT THINGS IN DIFFERENT CO-SERS, YOU GET DIFFERENT STATE AID RATIOS.

WHEN YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT 510, 554, 611, AND 612.

YOU GET A HIGHER STATE AID REIMBURSEMENT, AND IT'S REFLECTIVE OF STUDENT USE, AND IT'S IMPACT ON LEARNING.

FOR EXAMPLE, OUR STATE AID REIMBURSEMENT ON CO-SER IS 510 IS 54% VERSUS 611, WHERE IT'S 46%.

THAT'S REFLECTIVE DEPENDING ON AND YOU CAN TELL BECAUSE 510 IS ALL INSTRUCTIONAL SOFTWARE.

IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS STUDENT TEACHING AND LEARNING.

WHAT THE BOCES DID TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE, AND THIS WAS THIS WAS ACTUALLY FROM THE STATE, WAS THEY REMOVED, SO THEY USED TO SPLIT THE COST OF WHAT WAS OUR MANAGED IT SERVICE 510-611.

THEY JUST MOVED IT ALL TO 611 FOR NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S WHY ON 510, YOU'RE SEEING IT SAYS INACTIVE AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING ON THE '25-'26 CONTRACT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER BIGGER CHANGES AS WELL.

554 IS MODEL SCHOOLS, AND THAT'S LIKE OUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR ALL OF OUR TEACHERS TO ACCESS.

THEY HAVE BOTH VIRTUAL AND IN PERSON SESSIONS ALL AT THE LYRIC.

THEY'RE SUPPORTED BY ALL THE DIFFERENT SOFTWARES WE SUBSCRIBE TO.

EVERY YEAR, A LOT OF THESE TITLES THAT WE BELONG TO CAMI, NUZELA, IXL.

TEACHERS CAN ATTEND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OFFERED BY

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THEM BY BELONGING TO THIS MODEL SCHOOLS GENERAL MEMBERSHIP.

THEN THE KIOSKS THAT YOU SEE LISTED BELOW IS THE COST OF US TO NOT ONLY PURCHASE, BUT FOR THEM TO DO THE UNDERWRITING AND THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS FOR US, AND ALSO THE ED LAW 2D COMPLIANCE.

THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING A SEPARATE KIOSK SERVICE THAT COMES ON THAT.

FOR 611, WHICH IS MANAGEMENT SERVICES, IF YOU CAN THINK OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WHAT HAPPENS AND THE BACKEND STUFF, SO INFINITE CAMPUS, CLASS LINK, OUR LOCAL AREA NETWORK, BRANCHING MINES, FRONT LINE, GUIDANCE DIRECT, IUP DIRECT, BLACK FINAL SITE, WHICH IS OUR SCHOOL WEBSITE, TEST SCORING.

A LOT OF THOSE DIFFERENT ITEMS FALL UNDER 611.

ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT'S GOING TO BE FALLING OFF ON HERE AS WELL IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING CALLED DEBT BOOK.

IT'S 611-456.

I CAN'T EXACTLY SPEAK TO WHAT THAT IS.

I THINK THAT'S USED BY THE BUSINESS OFFICE.

I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT THEY REQUESTED TO HAVE THAT REMOVED.

>> YEAH. IT'S AN APPLICATION THAT WE DO NOT REQUIRE ANYMORE.

>> THEN THIS IS WHERE THAT INFINITE CAMPUS WORKFLOW MODULE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WILL BE ADDED ONTO HERE.

ALONG WITH THAT WILL BE DR. FITZGERALD FRONT LINE HR MODULE, WHICH COMES IN THREE SEPARATE BUNDLES.

IT WOULD BE ADDED ONTO HERE AS WELL.

THAT FOR ME IS MY ENTIRE LINE BY LINE ON THE BOCES APPENDIX 5.

WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF ANYTHING YOU SAW ON THERE?

>> GO AHEAD PLEASE.

>> INCLUDING A-Z BRAS PLUS, SO THAT'S BEING REMOVED.

>> YES, IT IS.

>> IT'S LISTED HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY RENEWING IT.

>> CORRECT. BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GET A RERUN OF THIS AND IT WILL BE PUT ON THE BOARD MINUTES FOR YOU TO APPROVE.

>> GOT IT.

>> IT'S NOT JUST US, BUT ANYONE THAT SUBSCRIBES TO THE LYRIC, THERE'S CHANGES BACK AND FORTH, BECAUSE AS YOU'RE NEGOTIATING YOUR BUDGET, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S COMING IN COMPLIANCE.

IT ALLOWS US TO DO OUR ADS AND REMOVES. YES.

>> IS THERE ANOTHER QUESTION?

>> THEN WHEN WE SEE THE STATE AID REIMBURSEMENT, WHICH I KNOW SHOWS UP SOMEPLACE ELSE HERE.

BUT THEN WHEN IT SHOWS UP SOMEPLACE ELSE, DO WE KNOW WHAT IT'S CONNECTED TO?

>> I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW IT COMES IN THE SECOND YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

IT DOESN'T SHOW UP ON ANY OF MY LINES HERE.

I THINK IT SHOWS UP IN A STATE AID REIMBURSEMENT. I WISH I GOT THAT.

>> NO, WE APPRECIATE JOHN'S KNOWLEDGE OF THE DIFFERENT REIMBURSEMENT RATES, BECAUSE I THINK I THINK THAT JUST DEMONSTRATES HOW DILIGENT WE TRY TO BE IN LEVERAGING THOSE DOLLARS AS BEST WE CAN. JOHN, I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> DO YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY WHEN YOU'RE MOVING ONE EXPENSE FROM ONE CO-SER TO ANOTHER? DO YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY THAT?

>> IT'S NOT ME. IT'S ACTUALLY NEW YORK STATE THAT CONTROLS THOSE RULES AROUND CO-SER COMPLIANCE. IT'S NOT EVEN ME.

I'M NOT SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO MOVE THIS FROM, I CAN'T DO THAT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY MANDATED TO US FROM THE STATE.

EVERY DISTRICT IN NEW YORK STATE IS ACTUALLY BUYING FROM THAT SAME CO-SER LINE.

IF WE WERE TO GO TO LET'S SAY, LIKE EERIE COUNTY SCHOOLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD BE BUYING FROM THE SAME THING.

IT'S CO-SER 510, SAME RULE, SAME CONTRACT.

SAME PRICE. THANK YOU.

>> JOHN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT WAS A WONDERFULLY THOROUGH PRESENTATION.

WITH THAT, ADMINISTRATORS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND YOUR SUPPORT.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. GO ON YOUR WAY.

SAFE TRAVELS HOME, AND I'LL SEE YOU IN THE MORNING.

>> GOOD NIGHT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOODNIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> IF I COULD ASK THE BOARD TO REMAIN ON APPENDIX 5, WE JUST HAVE THE REST OF THE PORTION OF THE BOCES BUDGET TO GO OVER.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE THE '24/'25 BUDGET, WHAT WE BUDGETED AND WHAT OUR FORECAST IS.

THEN IN '25/'26, YOU SEE WHAT THE REQUEST IS IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET. RIGHT AT THE TOP.

WE USE BOARD DOCS, VERY I COULDN'T HAVE PLANNED THAT ONE BETTER.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN APPLICATION USED BY THE DISTRICT FOR BOARD MEETINGS AND THE MAINTENANCE OF MINUTES AND DOCUMENTS.

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WE ARE ASSESSED AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S A RATHER LARGE NUMBER, $421,000.

>> THAT NUMBER IS A PRO-RATED COST BASED ON OUR SHARE OF OUR PARTICIPATION IN THE SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER BOCES.

THAT IS ONE NUMBER THAT'S HANDED TO US.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE HAD PARTICIPATION.

THEY HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD AS WELL, BOCES, AND IN YEARS PAST, PELHAM HAS HAD GREAT REPRESENTATION AS WELL.

>> IS THAT LIKE A MEMBERSHIP?

>> ACTUALLY, THERE'S SOME EXPENSES RELATED TO RETIREE EXPENSES THAT THEY HAVE.

SOME OF THE BASE COSTS THAT THEY HAVE.

AS WE LOOK FURTHER DOWN, YOU SEE SOME OF THE INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES.

ONE OF THE LARGEST ONES OR THE ONE RIGHT UP TOP THERE IS OCCUPATIONAL EDUCATION.

THAT'S THE HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM AT BOCES.

THOSE ARE HALF DAY PROGRAMS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE BUDGETED FOR 24 SLOTS.

THIS YEAR WE'RE AT A 21.

AGAIN, JUST TODAY, ACTUALLY, OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS MADE A VISIT TO BOCES, SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT YET FINALIZED, BUT THIS FOR OCCUPATIONAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEN, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE FOR INTENSIVE DAY PROGRAMS BACK ON TRACK PROGRAM.

WE HAVE SOME COSTS RELATED TO INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY AS JOHN SHARED.

THEN WE DO CARRY SOME CONTINGENCY, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THERE.

THAT'S PART OF OUR TOTAL CONTINGENCY AS A DISTRICT OF 2% THAT WE CARRY.

WE TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT FRONTLINE HUMAN RESOURCES BUNDLE.

THAT'S NEW WHERE I THINK WE'RE REALLY GOING TO GET SOME GREAT PARTICIPATION AND SYNERGIES BETWEEN THE BUSINESS OFFICES TECHNOLOGY AND HUMAN RESOURCES.

BRING IN SOME GREAT TECHNOLOGY.

I THINK THE FLOW OF INFORMATION IS JUST GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US.

WHEN WE HAVE OFFICIALS AT OUR SPORTING EVENTS, THAT'S COORDINATED THROUGH OUR BOCES.

THEN THOSE OFFICIALS ARE PAID BY THOSE OFFICIALS.

THAT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE I2.

THERE'S A COST RELATED TO THAT.

WE HAVE VIDEO FEEDS.

THAT STARTED FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE HUDDLE SERVICE THAT YOU SEE THERE.

WE ORIGINALLY USED LOCAL LIVE.

NOW WE HAD TWO SYSTEMS. WE'RE DOWN TO ONE RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE SOME COSTS RELATED TO OUR INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS.

AGAIN, MODEL SCHOOLS, SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT, MY LEARNING PLAN FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

HEALTH, WELLNESS AND SAFETY.

OUR ALTERRA SAFETY CONSULTANT LINE IS IN BOCES.

WE COORDINATE THAT THROUGH BOCES AS WELL.

ARTS AND EDUCATION, WHICH IS, AGAIN, WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE SEEN SOME INCREASES IN REVENUES THERE AS WELL.

THAT'S THE TOTAL FOR INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES, ABOUT 4.6, ALMOST $4.7 MILLION.

AS WE GO TO I3, WE USE BOCES TO PROVIDE SOME SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES FOR OUR PELHAM STUDENTS AND BASED ON STUDENT NEED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE SERVICED IN THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY, AS YOU CAN SEE IT.

AGAIN, OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY, PHYSICAL THERAPY, SPEECH, COUNSELING, ONE-TO-ONE AIDS.

THAT COULD BE FOR STUDENTS WHO ATTEND OUT OF DISTRICT, AND ARE STILL REQUIRED AN AID.

THOSE COSTS ARE THEN BILLED BACK TO THE DISTRICT.

THEN THAT LAST SLIDE AND YOU SEE BOCES TRANSPORTATION COORDINATOR.

WE ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT A TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT, BUT WE DO HAVE TRANSPORTATION EXPENSES RELATED TO PELHAM CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS CHOOSE TO SEND THEM TO SCHOOL OUT OF DISTRICT.

WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE THAT TRANSPORTATION.

WE PARTICIPATE IN A CONSORTIUM WITH BRONXVILLE, EASTCHESTER, PELHAM, AND TUCKAHOE. WE CALL IT BEPT.

WE TRY TO SHARE THOSE SERVICES TO AGAIN, BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN IN THE PROVISION OF THOSE SERVICES.

AS YOU SEE, THE TOTAL LINE IS $6.3 MILLION, A YEAR TO YEAR VARIANCE OF POSITIVE $203,000 OR 3.3%.

THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS BEING THROWN AT YOU TODAY AGAIN, AS YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS, SOMETIMES THEY COME TO YOU AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN DIFFERENT PLACES WHEN YOU'RE WALKING TO WORK OR DRIVING DRIVING SOMEWHERE.

IF YOU CAN HOLD ON TO THAT THOUGHT AND YOU NEED AN ANSWER, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US.

>> THANK YOU, JIM, AND THANK YOU, JACKIE.

REALLY TREMENDOUS WORK, AND APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERTISE AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL. WELL DONE.

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>> JACKIE, FEEL FREE TO GO HOME, TOO.

THE HOURS IS GETTING LATER AND LATER.

BUT THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOLLOW UP? I KNOW JIM AND JACKIE HAVE ALWAYS OFFERED TO DO ONE ON ONE.

THOSE OFFERS STILL STAND.

AS YOU DIG DEEPER INTO THIS, IF YOU WANT A CHANCE TO GO BACK OVER SOME THINGS AND UNDERSTAND MORE THE LEVELS OF DETAIL THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE.

>> I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION FOR TRACY ON THE BOCES STUFF.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LINES THAT ARE REDUCTIONS IN SPECIAL ED THROUGH BOCES, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE DYNAMIC WAS THERE IS THAT MOSTLY JUST STUDENTS AGING OUT, WHO WERE BEING PROVIDED BOCES SERVICES? IS IT A SHIFT TO IN DISTRICT SERVICES AWAY FROM BOCES? I'M LOOKING ON I3.

>> SOMETIMES IT'S JUST ABOUT SHIFT IN PLACEMENT MORE THAN ANYTHING.

IT COULD JUST BE SHIFT IN PLACEMENT SO WHEN I PRESENT NEXT WEEK, YOU MAY SEE A STUDENT WHO WAS PROJECTED TO GO INTO A BOCES GO INTO A PRIVATE LINE.

THAT'S WHERE YOU MAY SEE THOSE SHIFTS.

>> THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU.

>> ALSO, AND I THINK PART OF WHAT WE CAN SHARE IS THAT REVENUE BUDGET THAT I SHARED EARLIER TODAY.

THAT'S BASED OFF OF THE GOVERNOR'S ORIGINAL BUDGET PROPOSAL.

THE STATE BY STATUTE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ENACT THE FINAL BUDGET BY APRIL 1.

BY AND LARGE, THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT DATE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

AS WE RECEIVE THAT UPDATED INFORMATION, ONCE THE FINAL BUDGET IS ENACTED, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE ON TIME, YOU'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO YOUR BUDGET ADOPTION.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU AS WELL.

ALSO, TRACY, SHE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF ANNUAL REVIEW TIMES, IF ANYTHING, CHANGES AS WE GO THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS.

THESE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO KEEP YOU UP TO DATE ON, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE TO DO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY AS MY MEMORY IS COMING BACK TO ME, WE PROJECTED THIS YEAR FOR THREE STUDENTS TO GO INTO THE BOCES MULTIPLY HANDICAP PROGRAM.

IT WAS A KINDERGARTNER.

THEN WHEN WE GOT TO THE ACTUAL SEARCH PROCESS, THE PARENT ENDED UP PICKING A PRIVATE AND NOT GOING TO THE BOCES.

IT'S GUESSWORK WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PREDICT WHERE PEOPLE END UP.

>> WE'RE JUST COORDINATING NEXT STEPS.

>> YES. I LOVE CONSTRUCTION.

I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THE BUDGET PART, ARE WE?

>> YES, WE ARE.

>> WE GOT OTHER PEOPLE HERE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WHERE TO COME. NEXT TIME.

>> SWITCHING GEARS. WE CAN MOVE 3.3 OUR FACILITIES DISCUSSION.

AGAIN. OKAY. SWITCHING GEARS,

[3.3 Facilities Discussion]

AND MOVING TO 3.3 FACILITIES DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE TWO I GUESS TWO ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO FACILITIES.

ONE IS THE PURCHASE OF THE HOUSE.

THE NEXT IS TO DISCUSS THE BOND.

WE CAN START WITH THE HOUSE BECAUSE SOME OF THAT WILL INFORM THE BOND DISCUSSION.

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO KICK THAT OFF?

>> YES, PLEASE. GO AHEAD.

>> I'LL KICK THAT OFF. AS THE BOARD IS AWARE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, AND AS JACKIE HAS ALREADY SHARED, THERE IS A RESOLUTION TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT TO APPROVE OR AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR HOUSE PURCHASE.

AS PART OF THAT PROCESS WAS ALSO THE SEQR PROCESS, AND THAT IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AS WELL, DECLARING THAT A TYPE II ACTION.

WE DO HAVE WITH US TONIGHT, RUSS DAVIDSON FROM KG&D, KEVIN SAWYER FROM TITON.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE SEQR A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW, IF THAT'S OKAY.

IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER, BUT AS JACKIE SAID, I THINK THAT WILL INFORM OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FACILITIES PROPOSITIONS, ONCE THE BOARD HAS A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

IF IT MAKES SOME SENSE, MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO 5.1, AND THEN ALSO TO 5.4, JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MIGHT NEED TO ASK OUR PROFESSIONALS TONIGHT.

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I'D SAY THE FIRST RESOLUTION FOR THE HOUSE IS A PURCHASE OF PROPERTY, DECLARING IT AS A SEQR TYPE II ACTION GIVEN THE PARTICULAR PROJECT.

RUSS, CAN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT TO JUST GIVE US A THUMBNAIL SKETCH OF WHAT A TYPE II LOOKS LIKE AND ANYTHING WE MIGHT NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT RELATED TO THE HOUSE PURCHASE.

>> TYPE II UNDER SEQR IS ONE OF THE ACTIONS THAT THE NEW YORK STATE DEC HAS PREDETERMINED DOES NOT HAVE ANY ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

THAT'S ON A LIST.

YOU'RE VERY SAFE AND FOLLOWING THROUGH ON SEQR ON THAT.

>> YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY THERE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION VERY SHORTLY.

I THINK JACKIE HAS ARTICULATED THIS, BUT THE INTENTION IS ONCE IN A GENERATION.

OPPORTUNITY TO BUY TO PURCHASE A HOME ADJACENT TO SCHOOL PROPERTY.

WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY USING THAT FOR ONE OF OUR MOST IMMEDIATE NEEDS, WHICH WILL BE DISTRICT OFFICES TO START TO BE ABLE TO MOVE US OUT OF RENTAL SPACE AND BACKGROUNDS AND CAMPUS AND PROPERTY OWNED BY THE DISTRICT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD WAS AWARE OF THAT AS WE NOW MOVE TO TALKING ABOUT THE BOND SCOPE AS A WHOLE.

MAYBE IN DOING THAT, RUSS CAN YOU THEN TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS ALSO A NEGATIVE DECLARATION RELATED TO TWO DIFFERENT SEQR RESOLUTIONS FOR TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES.

THE SECOND SEQR RESOLUTION IS ON THERE FOR 5.4.

IT'S A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROPOSED CAPITAL BOND PROJECTS.

IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND THERE, AND I KNOW THE BOARD PROBABLY HAS SOME MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT MORE DETAILED.

>> THAT ONE REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT MORE ANALYSIS, SO THAT'S NOT AUTOMATICALLY ON THE LIST.

WE PREPARED A PART 2 AND A PART 3 OF THE FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM FOR YOU TO REVIEW.

IT'S A VERY STRUCTURED FORM THAT LOOKS AT A NUMBER OF SPECIFIC IMPACTS AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

THE BIGGEST REASON, AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT EVERYTHING YOU'VE CONSIDERED WE DID SEQR ON, SO WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO EVERYTHING, BUT THAT WAY YOU'RE FREE TO DO ANY PORTION OF IT.

THE BIGGEST REASON THAT THERE'S NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IS BECAUSE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING ON EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED.

IT'S ALL REDEVELOPMENT.

THE ONLY TIME WE'VE SEEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE FULL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS OR REALLY HAVE TO STUDY THINGS AND MITIGATE THINGS IS WHEN THEY DEVELOP NEW LAND.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY GEOTHERMAL WELLS ON A PLAYING FIELD, BUILDING ADDITIONS ON AREAS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.

THAT'S WHY THERE'S REALLY NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

IT IS NOT A RELATION.

IT WASN'T INITIATED BY DRAMATIC INCREASES IN POPULATION.

THE PROJECTS ARE REALLY ABOUT FIXING YOUR BUILDINGS AND RIGHT SIZING YOUR BUILDINGS FOR YOUR CURRENT AND PROJECTED POPULATIONS.

THE PART 2 DOES ANSWER YES ON IMPACT ON LAND, BUT ALL THE SUB-QUESTIONS HAVE NO OR SMALL IMPACT.

THERE'S ANSWER YES TO HISTORICAL RESOURCES.

IT'S BECAUSE PROSPECT HILL, SYMANOI, AND THIS BUILDING ARE ALL ELIGIBLE.

WHICH ONLY MEANS THAT YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER, SHPO, WHICH WOULD BE DONE AFTER THE BOND PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S NORMALLY A GIVE AND TAKE.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED ON THE HUTCHINSON SCHOOL.

THEIR CONCERN THERE WAS THAT WE DID SOME DOCUMENTATION AND TRY AND SAVE A FEW ASPECTS OF THE SCHOOL.

THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE ON WHATEVER YOU GO THROUGH.

AGAIN, THE REASON THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT THIS POINT IS BECAUSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE PROHIBITED FROM DEVELOPING COMPLETE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECTS UNTIL AFTER THE COMMUNITY FUNDS THEM.

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH SHPO.

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WE'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THIS BUILDING AND PROSPECT HILL SUCCESSFULLY IN THE PAST.

>> JUST ONE MORE THING ON STORMWATER.

YOU'LL SEE IN PART 3 OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE PROVIDED THAT IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT A FULL STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN WILL BE NECESSARY.

THAT MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT PORTIONS OF THE PROJECTS YOU SELECT.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, ALL NEW YORK STATE DEC STORMWATER REGULATIONS WILL BE FULLY COMPLIED WITH AT EACH LOCATION.

>> OKAY.

>> JUST AS A SIDE NOTE AT SIWANOY, THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE PROPOSED IS A REDUCTION FROM WHAT IS THERE NOW?

>> I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT, TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS ENLARGED PART RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ABOUT THE STORMWATER CONDITIONS, AND CERTAINLY IN OUR SHARED CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VILLAGE ABOUT THEIR PROJECTS, AND I APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM AND THAT WALTER HAUSER CAME WITH US.

JIM AND I MET WITH THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR TO GO OVER THEIR PLANS.

>> I'M GLAD WE WERE ALL RESPONSIVE.

THE LA GROUP IS A CONSULTANT PUT TOGETHER A SITE PLAN THAT INCORPORATES PERVIOUS PLAY SURFACES, SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE NOW.

THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE AREA INCREASES, AND THERE'S STORMWATER MEASURES BEING PROPOSED ON SITE, WHEREAS NONE EXISTS TODAY.

>> GREAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW DID THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT WE HAD.

BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT JUST SO THE COMMUNITY HEARS IT AGAIN, THAT THIS IS A TYPE 1 SECRA.

YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PROJECTS AS A WHOLE.

WE INDICATE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS THE LEAD.

>> AGENCY.

>> THE LEAD AGENCY DOING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.

YOU SPOKE ABOUT THREE OF THESE ON HERE, BUT THERE ARE 18 OR 19 QUESTIONS THAT GO THROUGH THE IMPACT CATEGORIES.

THERE ARE SUB QUESTIONS UNDER THAT. IT'S VERY.

>> THOUGH.

>> COMPREHENSIVE AND THOROUGH.

>> WE ADDITIONALLY PROVIDED A PART 3 FOR MORE DETAIL ON IT, WHICH IS NOT REQUIRED.

BUT YES, I DIDN'T THINK YOU WANTED TO GO LINE BY LINE.

YOU'D HAVE FOR THAT PIPE ALREADY TODAY.

>> NOT AT THIS HOUR.

>> I THOUGHT THAT NARRATIVE WAS HELPFUL IN PART 3.

>> GOOD. THAT WAS PREPARED BY OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND PLANNER, AND WITH OUR WHOLE TEAM.

BUT THE SECRET PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU DO EVERY DAY OR EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'S DONE BY ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS ACROSS THE STATE.

WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IS A COMPLETELY TYPICAL PROCEDURE TO ARRIVE AT NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, SO YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR BOND PLANNING.

>> WITH THAT, I THINK MAYBE WE TURNED INTO THE DISCUSSION WHERE WE LEFT OFF LAST TIME ABOUT THE BOND BOND SCOPE AS A WHOLE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> APPRECIATE IT.

WHERE WE LANDED LAST TIME? JUST AS A REMINDER. WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS, BUT JUST AS A REMINDER.

I THINK OUR TASK WAS TO GO FORWARD AND LOOK AT.

JIM, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THE BACKUP INFORMATION FROM RICK GANSI WHERE WE'D ASKED FOR SOME DIFFERENT BREAKOUTS OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO THE CONVERSATION.

WHAT I HAD RECORDED FROM LAST TIME IS WE WERE LOOKING AT INCLUDING THE FULL INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE, BUT WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL WINDOWS MIGHT BE SEPARATELY TO DETERMINE IF ULTIMATELY THOSE WHO REMAIN IN OR OR MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR DEFERMENT.

WE WERE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SIWANOY REVISED OPTION B AS IT STOOD.

I THINK I AM GOING TO ALSO ASK KEVIN TO GIVE US AN UPDATE, TOO BEFORE WE GO ANY TOO MUCH FURTHER INTO THIS.

WE TALKED ALSO ABOUT CONTINUING TO KEEP AIR CONDITIONING AT COLONIAL,

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SIWANOY AND PROSPECT HILL IN THE MIX, LOOKING AT LIKELY POTENTIALLY DEFERRING HIGH SCHOOL AIR CONDITIONING, LOOKING AT GEOTHERMAL SYSTEMS FOR PROSPECT HILL AND SIWANOY.

POTENTIALLY DEFERRING GEOTHERMAL AGAIN, IF WE'RE NOT DOING THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEMS TO ALIGN THAT WITH THE AIR CONDITIONING.

THEN HIGH SCHOOL EXPANSION WITH THE STUDENT CENTER AND SCIENCE LABS WAS STILL ON THE TABLE.

FULL INFRASTRUCTURE, SIWANOY OPTION B, ELEMENTARY AIR CONDITIONING, HIGH SCHOOL EXPANSION, AND THEN GEOTHERMAL PROJECTS AT PROSPECT HILL AND SIWANOY.

IS MY RECOLLECTION OF WHERE WE LEFT OFF LAST TIME.

HIGH SCHOOL WINDOWS, I THINK THERE WAS MORE DETAIL ON GEOTHERMAL THAT WAS REQUESTED AS WELL.

I THINK PRICING.

SOUND RIGHT. BEFORE WE OPEN THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION, KEVIN, I'D INVITE YOU TO COME SHARE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN HARD AT WORK AT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT I THINK WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE START TO MAKE SOME FINAL DECISIONS TONIGHT.

>> HEY, EVERYBODY. I'LL TRY AND MAKE THIS AS BRIEF, BUT INFORMATIONAL AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE FOR ALL OF US.

WE WERE ASKED TO DO A SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE BUDGET NUMBERS THAT HAD BEEN PROVIDED BY KG&D AND THAT YOU'VE BEEN USING THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

WE HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN INTO EACH OF THE PROGRAMS, AND THEN WE ADDED SOME ITEMS TOGETHER LEANING TOWARD SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED HAS BEEN FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

I THOUGHT THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO DO THIS IS TO START IN GENERAL.

THEN I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME DETAILS, AND THEN I'LL SUMMARIZE WHERE I THINK YOU ARE OVERALL.

OKAY. THEN ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ONCE I GET THROUGH IT.

GENERALLY, THE PROGRAM THAT KG&D PUT TOGETHER FOR THE BUDGET IS GOOD.

THEY HAVE CONSISTENT CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCIES.

THEY HAVE CONSISTENT PROJECT COSTS AND ESCALATION IN THE BUDGET, THE ESCALATION FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO BE AS AN AVERAGE FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT SHOULD BE FINE.

REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE WAY THAT THAT WAS SET UP IN THE PRESENTATIONS THAT THEY HAD DONE IN THE PAST.

I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD.

NOW, IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUAL RELATED ITEMS, WE EVALUATED THE INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE.

THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER AND BASED ON GENERAL SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBERS AND PRICING AND ASSUMING A STANDARD ABATEMENT ALLOWANCE WITHIN THAT NUMBER, HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE NUMBERS THAT WE CAME UP WERE RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PROJECTED BY KG&D, SO REALLY SOLID IN THAT ASPECT, SO THAT IS GOOD.

THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SIWANOY ELEMENTARY.

THE ADDITION PROJECT, WE HAVE FOUND SOME SLIGHT DIFFERENCES IN THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE PROJECTING.

THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE USING ARE BASED ON ACTUAL COSTS OF ADDITION AND ALTERATION PROJECTS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEING OUT OF THE MARKET RIGHT NOW.

I THINK SOME OF THE VARIABLES THAT MIGHT HAVE TO DO WITH THAT IS THERE'S A LITTLE UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKET.

RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL MARKET.

THERE'S NOT A VERY HIGH VOLUME OF CONTRACTORS OUT THERE.

I ALSO THINK THAT THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS THAT KG&D BASED THEIR PROGRAM ON WAS HUTCH PLUS MULTIPLIERS THROUGH TURNER'S INDEX.

THEN ADDING FOR ESCALATION SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT PROJECT WAS GOING.

I THINK THAT THAT PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY BOUGHT AT A REALLY GOOD PRICE.

I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE FROM WHAT IT IS VERSUS WHAT YOU MAY ANTICIPATE SEEING IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS AND YEARS.

I MIGHT ALSO NOTE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, SIMILAR FINDINGS FOR THE ADDITIONS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL MIDDLE SCHOOL, IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NUMBERS IN A MINUTE.

THE GEOTHERMAL WAS ACTUALLY BASED ON A PROJECT THAT WE DID TOGETHER, AND IT'S IN LINE WITH COSTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN ACTUALS, SO NO OBJECTIONS WITH THAT.

ALSO THE AIR CONDITIONING NUMBER BASED ON THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE COSTS THAT WE

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PUT TOGETHER ARE ALSO RIGHT IN LINE WITH THOSE NUMBERS.

LET ME SUM IT UP. THE BUDGET THAT WAS PROVIDED BY KG&D IS A GOOD BUDGET. IT WILL WORK.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER SOME PRICING IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN BASE COSTS WITHIN THE BUDGET.

IT ALSO ANTICIPATES A LOW BIDDER AS I BELIEVE, IT ANTICIPATES A LOW BIDDER, MEANING THAT SOMEBODY WILL COME IN AND SHARPEN THEIR PENCIL.

WHEN WE DO OUR BUDGET ANALYSIS, WE TEND TO LOOK AT MORE OF THE SECOND LOW BIDDER OR THIRD LOW BIDDER IN AVERAGE BECAUSE THAT TENDS TO BE WHAT THE COST REALLY WAS.

THE ADVANTAGE YOU GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC BIDDING PROCESS IS THAT SOME CONTRACTOR WILL STRATEGICALLY LOWER THEIR BID TO GET THE WORK.

THAT WILL TREND A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN PERHAPS OUR AVERAGE DOLLAR FOR WHAT WE THINK ACTUAL COST SHOULD BE.

I THOUGHT WHAT I'D DO IS PUT TOGETHER A SYNOPSIS BASED ON THAT OPTION 3, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH INCLUDED AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AND THE SIWANOY ADDITION, WHICH TOTALED ABOUT 82.5 MILLION DOLLAR.

OUR BUDGET RANGE CAME IN FROM 82.5-84.6, YOU COULD GET IT DONE FOR THAT PRICE OF THE 82.5.

THAT IS A REALLY GOOD PRICE.

IF YOU CAN GET THAT, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE WITH YOUR NUMBER AND CONSIDER RAISING THAT UP A LITTLE BIT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME UNCERTAINTIES WITHIN THE MARKET.

I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT TARIFFS.

THAT IS ONLY A DISCUSSION WITHOUT TARIFFS.

THAT'S MY QUICK SUMMARY, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

>> WOULD YOU ALSO APPLY THAT SAME THINKING TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY?

>> CORRECT. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE HIGH SCHOOL DIFFERENCE THAT WE HAD WAS 1.8 MILLION FROM WHAT WAS PROJECTED AT.

>> OKAY.

WELL, I USED THE NUMBER OF THE LOWEST COST OF 34.5, WHICH WAS THE LOWEST COST THAT WAS ON A LIST?

>> I DID.

>> THAT'S BASED ON THAT.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THE $38 OPTION AT THIS.

>> THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE CLOSER TO 1.5 MILLION.

ACTUALLY $38 MILLION OPTION.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT, JUST IN REGARDS TO THE SIWANOY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER AS A TOTAL.

BUT YOU DID SHARE THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES THAT YOU IDENTIFIED WITH THE SIWANOY PROJECT.

CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU FOUND THERE?

>> MAYBE IN SOME NUMBERS.

>> OUR SQUARE FOOT COST PRICE AVERAGED TO BE ABOUT $625 A SQUARE FOOT, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE NUMBERS BASED ON THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT YOU HAVE FOR SIWANOY.

WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE COSTS ARE INCREASED FROM WHAT WAS PROJECTED BY KG&D.

FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I THINK THAT THE BASIS FOR THEIR BUDGET ESTIMATE WAS HUTCH.

HUTCH CAME IN AT A VERY GOOD NUMBER, VERY AGGRESSIVE NUMBER, SO THAT'S NUMBER 1.

NUMBER 2 IS THERE'S SOME MARKET UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW IN THE BIDDING ATMOSPHERE WITH THE CONTRACTORS TODAY.

WE'RE SEEING COST TREND A LITTLE UP RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE OPENING OUR ACTUAL BIDS, AND WE'RE SEEING THAT.

WE WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION, THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT BOARD WANTS TO CONSIDER IN YOUR REVIEW AND ANALYSIS OF THE OVERALL COST.

>> APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH MORE? JUST GIVE US I'M CURIOUS WHAT THAT BASELINE IS.

>> SURE.

>> SIWANOY WAS ESTIMATED AT 28 MILLION, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 2.1 MILLION.

>> IT'S ABOUT 30 MILLION AS WELL.

>> IS THAT DUE TO THE EXPANSION, OR IS THAT OVERALL INCORPORATING THE RENOVATIONS AS WELL.

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>> THAT'S EVERYTHING.

>> OKAY.

>> THAT'S THE WHOLE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.

>> RIGHT.

>> WITHOUT INCLUDING ANY TARIFFS?

>> YES. I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, IS WHAT'S GIVING YOU PAUSE RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE EXPANSION OR JUST TO THESE COSTS OVERALL FOR THE FULL PROJECT?

>> TO THE EXPANSION, THE ADDITION.

>> THANKS.

>> I BALANCED IT OUT.

THE ADDITION IS A LITTLE HIGH.

THEN THE RENOVATIONS ARE A LITTLE LOW, SO I BALANCED IT OUT,.

>> OBVIOUSLY, I PRESUME YOU DON'T KNOW ANY MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE, [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE IF YOU DID, YOU WOULDN'T BE TALKING TO US.

>> TARIFFS?

YOU'D BE ON YOUR PRIVATE JET SOMEWHERE.

WHO KNOWS. IT'S AN EVOLVING SITUATION DAY BY DAY.

BUT I GUESS, TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, MAYBE THE SAME GOES TO US AS WELL, HAS THERE BEEN A CHANGE OF TENURE IN THE BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE IN? ARE YOU SEEING ANY CHANGE IN BEHAVIORS THROUGHOUT THE BUSINESS? WHICH WAY DO PEOPLE THINK THE WIND IS BLOWING? ARE YOU SEEING PROJECTS CANCELED OR IS IT JUST BUSINESS AS USUAL?

>> GREAT QUESTION. RIGHT NOW I HAVE FIVE ESTIMATORS IN OUR OFFICE PULLING OUT WHAT'S LEFT OF THEIR HAIR.

VERY UNCERTAIN TIMES.

BECAUSE OF THE MARKET AND THE TARIFFS, AND ONE DAY, WE HAVE 25%, THE NEXT DAY, EVERYTHING'S GONE, THE NEXT DAY, WE HAVE 50%, NEXT DAY, THAT'S GONE, VERY HARD FOR US TO PUT OUR FINGER ON IT.

THROUGHOUT THE MARKET, EVERYBODY IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATED.

I THINK THE STOCK MARKET IS ACTUALLY SHOWING A LITTLE BIT AND IT'S RECENTLY GOING DOWN.

THAT BEING SAID, WE DID DO SOME ANALYSIS FOR YOU IN ANTICIPATION OF YOUR QUESTION.

IF WE TOOK 25% ON A PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT WE THINK WOULD BE MOST IMPACTED, WHICH WOULD BE STEEL RELATED PRODUCTS, ALUMINUM RELATED PRODUCTS, SO THAT'S YOUR STRUCTURAL STEEL, YOUR REINFORCING STEEL, YOUR WINDOWS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'RE STARTING TO HEAR FROM SOME VENDORS, WHICH IS WHERE IT REALLY COMES FROM FIRST, THAT THINGS LIKE FURNITURE MIGHT START BEING AFFECTED, AND SOME OTHER PRODUCTS POTENTIALLY COULD BE AFFECTED WITH THESE TARIFFS MOVING FORWARD.

BUT NOBODY IS TELLING US THAT THERE'S COSTS THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING DOWN ON PAPER RIGHT NOW.

ANTICIPATING YOUR QUESTION, WE DID DO SOME ANALYSIS, TAKING A PERCENTAGE OF THE SOLENOID ADDITION FOR STRUCTURAL STEEL AND FOR ALUMINUM PRODUCTS.

WE TOOK A PERCENTAGE BASED ON A 25% TARIFF, AND WE CAME UP WITH BASICALLY JUST A HAIR OVER $1 MILLION ON 25% TARIFF, ASSUMING 6-9 MONTHS.

YOU'RE OUT WHAT? YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR BOND, THEN YOU'RE OUT A GOOD YEAR OR SO BEFORE YOU GET ALL YOUR DRAWINGS UP TO THE STATE, AND THEN THE WHOLE SED PROCESS.

YOU'RE OUT A LITTLE BIT OF WAYS.

A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN THAT TIME.

BUT I THINK IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A FAIR VALUATION ON THE OVERALL COST, I WOULD SAY SOLENOID FOR A 25% TEAR FOR ABOUT A MILLION BUCKS.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAM AT THE 38 MILLION, I HAD JUST ALMOST 1.5 MILLION IN TARIFF.

AGAIN, THAT'S PURELY A SHOT IN THE DARK BASED ON PERCENTAGES THAT WE HAVE ON A 25% TARIFF ON THE VOLUME OF WORK THAT'S PROJECTED.

>> THANKS.

>> THAT'S GOOD INFO.

>> THANK YOU, KEVIN.

>> ALL IN ALL NOT BAD.

JUST THAT'S WHOLE ISSUE WITH THE DIFFERENCES IN THE COST THERE. THANK YOU.

>> YOUR MOST CONSERVATIVE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE A TOTAL OF ADD OF 2.1 ON SOLENOID AND 1.5 ON THE HIGH SCHOOL?

>> THEN WHATEVER TARIFFS YOU FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE TO GO TO THE BOND WITH.

>> GOT IT.

>> I THINK THAT THE ARCHITECT WOULD BE REALLY HAPPY BECAUSE THAT EASES THE DESIGN PROCESS A LOT.

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IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST GO AROUND, WE WENT TO REBID A NUMBER OF TIMES.

>> YES, WE DID.

>> BECAUSE THE PROCESS WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT NUMBER THAT THEY HAD BUDGETED.

YOU CAN DO IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK TO GET THROUGH IT. THANKS, EVERYBODY.

>> EVEN ON THE TARIFFS, IS THE RIGHT WAY TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

THE COST OF LIKELY TARIFFED PRODUCTS IS CALL IT 10 OR 15% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET.

>> WE'RE USING BETWEEN 18 AND 20% OF THE VOLUME OF THE WORK PROJECTED ON A 25% TARIFF IS HOW I CAME WITH THE NUMBER.

>> THANKS.

>> ABOUT 18-20% OF THE VOLUME OF THE PROJECT, ARE COSTS.

>> WELL, IS IT OKAY TO LET THE CABINET GO?

>> WE'RE UP TO 10:00, SO I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO GO, YOU ARE RELEASED.

>> EXCEPT FOR JIM.

>> I'LL HANDLE ALL THE POLICY THINGS. SORRY, JIM.

[LAUGHTER] I'LL TAKE CARE OF THE POLICY THINGS, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GO.

I KNOW TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE A HARD DAY FOR EVERYONE SO GO GET SOME SLEEP.

REALLY, THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE QUESTION OF WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO? I KNOW JACKIE SET THE STAGE FOR US AT THE BEGINNING WITH A SUGGESTION.

ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, WE'RE DECIDING ON A SCOPE, POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS.

BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE DO WANT TO GIVE YOU A SECOND TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE WORLD CAFE FEEDBACK.

I DID EMAIL THAT TO YOU EARLIER IN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU TO ALEX FOR ASSEMBLING THAT AS A SUMMARY FOR US.

MY QUICK READ OF IT, IS THAT IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING THROUGHOUT THIS ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE I THINK IT REAFFIRMS MANY THINGS.

AS WE SAID AT THE WORLD CAFE LAST NIGHT, WE HAD THREE KEY QUESTIONS THAT WE FOCUSED ON, WHAT INFORMATION WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE BOND PROPOSAL AND WHAT UNANSWERED QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? I JOKED LAST NIGHT, BUT I THINK IT'S REAL ALEX AND I WILL LIKELY USE THOSE AS THE CORE OF SOME FAQS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SOME GREAT FEEDBACK THERE.

QUESTION 2, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE TAX IMPACT RELATIVE TO THE VALUE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS? I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THERE AS WELL ABOUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND.

A LOT OF FOLKS DID SEE THE VALUE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY SAW THE NET TAX IMPACT.

THE NUMBERS ARE BIG.

I THINK THAT'S ONE PIECE OF FEEDBACK.

HAVING THE $65 MILLION IN TAX NEUTRAL BORROWING WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THEN SEEING THE ACTUAL WHAT DOES IT MEAN NET TO THE INDIVIDUAL HOME TAX PAYER WAS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

BEING ABLE TO BUILD OUT MORE INFORMATION THERE IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT CERTAINLY, I KNOW BOARD MEMBERS HAD OTHER FEEDBACK THAT THEY GLEANED FROM THAT.

THEN QUESTION 3 WAS HOW SHOULD THE DISTRICT BALANCE THE LONG TERM BENEFITS OF SUSTAINABILITY UPGRADES AGAINST THE SHORT TERM COST IMPACT? WOULD YOU SUPPORT HIGHER UPFRONT FOR LONGER TERM SAVINGS? YOU SEE BASICALLY THE THEMES THAT CAME OUT THERE, AND AT THE END OF THE DOCUMENT IS A HOLISTIC SUMMARY.

I'LL GIVE YOU JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OR EITHER FROM LAST NIGHT OR FROM WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE BY WAY OF SUMMARY, CERTAINLY, IF ANYTHING RESONATES PARTICULARLY STRONGLY WITH YOU, FEEL FREE TO SHARE THAT.

>> WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT CAME THROUGH WAS, AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS WORD HERE, AFFORDABILITY.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I DO THINK ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE A PRIORITY FOR THE DISTRICT TO GET DONE.

HOWEVER, THE TAX IMPACT IS SOMETHING THAT IS WEIGHING ON PEOPLE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN THE PROPOSITIONS THAT WE PUT FORWARD.

>> I HEARD THAT AS WELL.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE WRESTLING WITH A LOT.

I THINK EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY KEPT OPERATIONAL JUST THE REGULAR BUDGET, NOT THE THE BOND BUDGET, EVEN THOUGH TAX INCREASES HAVE BEEN BELOW 3% FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE THREES THIS YEAR.

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I THINK THE PENNY IS BEGINNING TO DROP JUST THROUGH PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE IN THE WORLD THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A RECKONING IN TERMS OF TAX INCREASES JUST TO RUN THE SCHOOLS IN THE COMING YEARS.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE CONSCIOUS OF THAT.

I THINK THEY'RE ALSO CONSCIOUS AROUND JUST VOLATILITY OF COSTS I THINK WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THAT TONIGHT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S JUST THE TARIFFS.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S JUST TARIFF HEADLINES.

I THINK IT'S JUST THE MARKET, IT'S JUST SYSTEMIC INCREASE IN COSTS THAT WILL PROBABLY SURFACE IN THE NUMBERS IN THE BOND, BUT ALSO JUST ELSEWHERE IN THEIR LIVES.

I THINK THAT I HEARD A REACTION TO THE NUMBERS FOR DIFFERENT PROPERTY VALUES THAT WAS CONCERNED. I WILL SAY THAT.

THE OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON, AND I'M GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE, BUT I THINK EVEN THOUGH GEOTHERMAL IS A SMALL PIECE OF THE PI IN TERMS OF COST, I THINK THERE IS MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

>> MANY QUESTIONS.

>> I THINK THE MATH ON IT IS IMPRECISE AND HARD TO ARTICULATE AND HARD TO PIN DOWN.

I THINK THAT THE MATH, AS WELL AS BEING IMPRECISE ON GEOTHERMAL, ALSO FOR IT TO WORK, CONCEPTUALLY, DEPENDS UPON POLICY, DEPENDS UPON TAX BREAKS AFFORDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME CONCERN AROUND WHETHER THOSE ARE SUSTAINABLE OR WILL BE AROUND.

THEN I THINK THE THIRD ISSUE AROUND GEOTHERMAL IS THERE'S SOME JUST INFORMATION DOING THE ROUNDS ABOUT ITS ACTUAL EFFECTIVENESS, AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH IT DOES SAVE MONEY AND WILL SAVE MONEY.

THEN FINALLY, JUST THE IMPACT IS GOING TO HAVE JUST IN THE MOMENT WHEN THOSE WELLS ARE BEING DRILLED, I THINK IS RIGHTFULLY CONCERNING PEOPLE.

GEOTHERMAL, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER CARVING IT OUT, MAKING IT A SEPARATE PROPOSITION, OR I THINK THAT BUNDLING IT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, JUST BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS.

>> I AGREE. I THINK IT'S FROM WHAT YOU SAID.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THE PLACE TO SAY TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, WHAT WILL BE THE COST SAVINGS? SOME OF THE FEEDBACK LAST NIGHT WAS WE SHOULD SEPARATE THE DISCUSSION ON GEOTHERMAL INTO TWO THINGS.

THERE'S ONE IS JUST THE SUSTAINABILITY AND LESSENING THE DISTRICT'S CARBON FOOTPRINT.

THAT'S, OF COURSE, IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MOST OF US.

BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RETURN IS ON THAT IS A REAL CONCERN THE TIME HORIZON FOR THE RETURN GIVES PEOPLE PAUSE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IMMEDIATE.

IT MIGHT NOT BE FOR YEARS.

>> I HEAR A LOT OF THAT OR UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THAT.

I GUESS MY PERSPECTIVE IS THE NUMBERS ARE IMPRECISE BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE TO REALLY DRILL DOWN TO WHAT IT WOULD BE FOR OUR SCHOOLS GIVEN A SITUATION WHERE PARTICULARLY FOR THESE SCHOOLS THAT ARE GOING FROM LARGELY UNVENTILATED SPACES THAT ARE NOT HAVING AIR FLOW MULTIPLE TIMES AN HOUR TO UPGRADED TO CURRENT STANDARDS, WHERE IT'S 10 TIMES AN HOUR OF THE AIR COMING THROUGH AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING A LOT MORE ON UTILITIES REGARDLESS OF WHICH SYSTEM YOU USE.

BUT WITH SUBSTANTIAL OPERATING SAVINGS ON THE GEOTHERMAL RELATIVE TO TRADITIONAL SYSTEMS, I THINK THE ANALYSIS THAT WALT'S BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE HAS BEEN WITHOUT TAX INCENTIVES.

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IT'S A WITHIN 10% DIFFERENCE OVER THE FIRST 25 YEARS AND SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS FOR ANY TIME BEYOND THAT BECAUSE THE OPERATING COSTS ARE SO MUCH LOWER, AND REALLY THE COST OF GEOTHERMAL IS THAT UPFRONT COST.

[NOISE] I VIEW IT AS IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE SUPPORT BUILDINGS THAT WE EXPECT TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS, THE RIGHT THING FOR THE DISTRICT OVER A LONG TERM IS CLEARLY GEOTHERMAL.

OVER THE SHORT TERM, IT'S LIKELY BREAK EVEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS IF THE TAX BREAKS COME THROUGH.

ON THE ECONOMICS, IT FEELS LIKE A GOOD BET FOR US FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I THINK THIS IS STILL AN OPEN QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH HIGH SCHOOL AIR CONDITIONING.

IF WE'RE NOT DOING THAT AND WE'RE NOT DOING GEOTHERMAL AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THOSE ARE LARGE COSTS.

THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $4 MILLION PROJECT FOR THE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS TO DO GEOTHERMAL, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AVERAGE COST FOR AN AVERAGE HOUSE OF $35 A YEAR.

AT THAT DOLLAR LEVEL, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLAR IN TAX INCENTIVES, IT FEELS LIKE THE RIGHT CHOICE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS ON THAT.

>> I THINK WHEN YOU BREAK THE PROJECTS OUT TO THE CONSTITUENT PARTS, I THINK PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN TO HAVE AN OPINION, CAN EASILY FORM AN OPINION EITHER WAY ON NEW CLASSROOMS, THEY CAN EASILY FORM AN OPINION ON INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY CAN EASILY FORM AN OPINION ON SCIENCE LABS AND CAFETERIAS.

I THINK THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO FORM AN OPINION ON GEOTHERMAL.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> BECAUSE IT'S COMPLICATED.

>> WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT IF THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO FORM AN OPINION ON SOMETHING, THEY'RE LESS INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT.

I JUST WANT THINGS THAT ARE SUPPORTED IN THIS BOND.

THAT'S PART OF MY HESITATION.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION, MAYBE JUST RUSS? I NEED TO CATCH UP. I'M WONDERING, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT THE MORE EXPERIENCE, AND MAYBE KEVIN, AS WELL, BUT I THINK THIS REALLY GOES BACK TO A DESIGN QUESTION.

AS WE'VE SAID, WE'RE AT 2% DESIGN.

WE GOT 98% TO GO.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPGRADING HEATING SYSTEMS. MY RECOLLECTION FROM LAST TIME AROUND IS THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND OPTIONS THAT ARE LOOKED AT DURING THAT PROCESS.

I GUESS IT'S MAYBE A TWO FOLD QUESTION.

IS IT POSSIBLE IF WE WERE TO NOT EXPLICITLY PUT GEOTHERMAL ON THE TABLE NOW THAT THROUGH THAT DESIGN PROCESS, IF WE WERE TO FIND WAYS WITHIN THE BUDGET TO DO IT, WE COULD DO IT? OR MAYBE A BETTER QUESTION IS IF WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT NOW, AND WE DID A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND GOT SOME MORE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK OUT TO THE VOTERS IN SIX MONTHS TIME AND SAY, LOOK, WE'VE DUG DEEPER.

WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD OPTION.

COULD IT THEN BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN PROJECT AT A LATER POINT?

>> I THINK YOUR SECOND OPTION IS MORE VIABLE.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT MONEY DURING A DESIGN PROCESS.

>> THAT MONEY.

>> IT IS COMPLICATED BECAUSE YOU NEED TO DO ENERGY MODELING.

I'M SURE WALT TOLD YOU THAT.

WE CAN'T DO ENERGY MODELING UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT YOU COULD ADD IT BACK.

THERE'S ALSO, YOU DON'T WANT TO INVEST IN A BOILER PLANT AND THEN IN FIVE YEARS, CONVERT TO GEOTHERMAL.

THAT'S BUYING A CAR THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR 30 YEARS AND ONLY DRIVING IT FOR FIVE.

YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT DECISION EARLY ON.

THE WAY THIS BOND IS GOING TO BE STRUCTURED AND THE WAY THE DEBT FALLS OFF, IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS.

THAT ESCALATION IS BUILT IN.

YOU DO HAVE SOME TIME TO DO SOME DESIGN ON THAT PART,

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EXPECTING THAT THAT PART WILL BE BUILT AT THE BACK END OF IT, AND DO THE ENERGY MODELING, AND THEN MAKE A DIFFERENT DECISION.

>> THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION, YOU SAID WE CAN'T DO ENERGY MODELING UNTIL AFTER WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT IT SEEMS ENERGY MODELING BECAUSE EVEN [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE CAN'T DO DETAILED DESIGN UNTIL YOU FUND SOMETHING, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

>> UNTIL WE FUND SOMETHING.

>> ONCE YOU FUND SOMETHING, YOU CAN COMMISSION DESIGN, AND THEN WE CAN DO ENERGY MODELING.

>> I'M SAYING, I THINK IT'S ALMOST AS PART OF AFTER WE UNDERSTAND THE PLAN WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

BECAUSE PART OF THE DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT WAS HUGUENOT CHURCH HAS GEOTHERMAL, AND AND THAT WAS A KEY COMPONENT FOR THEM TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO DO GEOTHERMAL, WAS ENERGY MODELING.

IT'S HARD TO AGREE OR GET THE COMMUNITY TO AGREE TO DO THAT, TO WILL'S POINT, WITHOUT HAVING THAT.

>> UNDERSTOOD. IT'S COMPLICATED.

AS MENTIONED, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE CODE-COMPLIANT VENTILATION SYSTEMS, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE LOADS ARE BEFORE WE CAN TELL YOU DEFINITIVELY WHAT YOUR SIMPLE OR LONG-TERM PAYBACK IS FOR THAT FIRST COST OF DRILLING THE HOLES.

>> IF WE WERE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT THAT, YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO, I'M JUST BEING HYPOTHETICAL, PROSPECT HILL, GEOTHERMAL, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE WHOLE PACKAGE THERE, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, THAT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH DETAILED INFORMATION FOR YOU TO THEN MODEL ANYTHING?

>> BEFORE YOU VOTE? [OVERLAPPING]

>> MAYBE PROSPECT JUNIOR.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME.

BECAUSE IN THE OTHER PROJECTS, I'M SORRY, IN THE OTHER PROJECTS, WE COULD SAY DEFINITELY IT'S GOING TO COST US 28 MILLION.

WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING IN RETURN.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET IN ADDITION.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET NEW CLASSROOMS. I THINK WHAT I HEARD YESTERDAY I WAS AT THE TABLE THAT ACTUALLY HAD THIS QUESTION DURING THE WORLD CAFE WAS, YOU WERE THERE, WAS IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY WHAT THIS MEANS IN MY POCKET.

I'M PAYING FOR SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST SAVINGS IS GOING TO BE IN 15, 20, 25 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IT'S HARD FOR US TO SAY, WELL, WE'VE DONE THIS ANALYSIS, AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THE ANALYSIS UNTIL AFTERWARDS.

>> THE ONLY ANALYSIS THAT'S MEANINGFUL IS ENERGY MODELING.

THE REST IS SHOOTING FROM THE HIP, BUT IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SHOT BECAUSE IT WORKS.

IT SAVES MONEY MORE IN THE END-GAME THAN THE FRONT-GAME, AND IT'S ZERO CARBON.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT DEBATABLE.

THIS IS NOT AN EXPERIMENTAL TECHNOLOGY. IT'S GOING TO WORK.

WE'RE DOING IT ON A BIG SCALE OVER IN ORANGE COUNTY.

WE DID IT AT POST ROAD, IN WHITE PLAINS TOGETHER, TITON, AND KG AND D. THERE IT HAD LESS THAN A 20-YEAR SIMPLE PAYBACK.

BUT HOW MUCH DO YOU AIR CONDITION? RIGHT NOW, YOUR SCHOOLS AREN'T AIR CONDITIONED.

>> THERE'S NO WAY TO ANALYZE OUR AIR CONDITIONING.

>> WE CAN'T ANALYZE YOUR AIR CONDITIONING USE, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS.

BUT TO KNOW IN DETAIL THE PAYBACK REQUIRES THAT ENERGY MODELING.

BUT WILL IT WORK? ARE THE NUMBERS FOR THE WELLS REASONABLE? I THINK YOU HEARD KEVIN SAY YES, SO WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THE COST AND THAT IT WILL WORK, AND THAT THE SAVINGS IS MORE IN THE DISTANCE THAN IT IS IN THE NEAR TIME.

THOSE ARE NOT DEBATABLE, REALLY.

>> JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I THINK SOME OF IT IS AROUND MAYBE THAT EDUCATION PIECE OR UNDERSTANDING THE VALUE.

DO YOU KNOW, WHY DOES IT MATTER WITHOUT SOME OF THAT SPECIFICS? BECAUSE I'VE ALSO HEARD FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE OTHER END THAT KNOW THE VALUE, THEY DON'T NEED TO SEE THE NUMBERS, DO YOU KNOW IT'S A WELL VALUED? EXACTLY. LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION.

>> IT'S A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT OF OF FAITH INVOLVED THERE.

THE SUSTAINABLY MINDED HAVE THE FAITH.

>> EXACTLY. I THINK TO WILL'S POINT, HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE TO FOLKS THAT THAT INFORMATION THAT EITHER WILL BRING THEM TO SOME OPINION,

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THEIR OPINION OR NOT, AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT, THE WHOLE SCOPE OF EVERYTHING AT $140 MILLION, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SPENDING, THIS IS ONE OF THE SMALLER AREAS, AND I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL THE PAYOFF AND ALL OF THAT, IT'S A SMALLER AREA.

IT FEELS ALMOST A VERY SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT, BUT MAYBE IT'S A COMMUNICATION THING.

IT'S A SMALLER AREA.

IF YOU DID LOOK AT THE TAX IMPLICATION FOR THE COMMUNITY BASED NEXT TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, NEXT TO THAT, WHAT SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE WOULD IT HAVE IF WE JUST SAID, WELL, OUR COMMUNITY CAN'T DECIDE ON THIS, SO LET'S JUST NOT DO IT, OR LET'S JUST PUT IT TO THE SIDE.

I THINK WE NEED TO PUSH THROUGH TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF EDUCATION, WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNICATION WE SHOULD DO TO ENGAGE FOLKS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE AROUND UNDERSTANDING THE VALUES OR DIS VALUES WHERE THEY CAN ARGUE WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO.

ALSO, IS IT OUT THERE? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT IS IT OUT THERE? IS THE TAX IMPLICATION OUT THERE FOR JUST GEOTHERMAL, THAT SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT.

I KNOW IT WAS UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT I'M JUST THINKING PRACTICALLY, IS IT ANYWHERE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE, OH, IT'S $25 MORE A YEAR TO DO, I FORGET THE EXACT NUMBER.

>> I'M SORRY. I DON'T THINK IT'S SO MUCH THE DOLLAR NUMBER.

I THINK IT'S WHAT RUSS WAS SAYING, WHICH IS I THINK WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING IS TRUST US IT'S GOING TO WORK.

I THINK PEOPLE HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THAT CANDIDLY.

>>> RUSS, THERE WAS ONE TECHNICAL QUESTION THAT I KNOW WAS FLOATING AROUND.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.

BUT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WITH GEOTHERMAL SYSTEMS, THEY NEED TO RUN CONSISTENTLY YEAR ROUND, AND GIVEN THAT SCHOOLS ARE 10-MONTH, BASICALLY, WE'RE UP AND RUNNING 10 MONTHS, BUT WE'RE NOT HEAVY USERS IN THE SUMMER, I KNOW SOME OF THE SCHOOLS THAT IT COULD OVER TIME HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT AND IMBALANCE THE SYSTEM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE QUESTION.

>> YOUR HIGHEST EFFICIENCY IS WHEN YOU HAVE A BALANCED HEATING AND COOLING LOAD.

THAT USED TO MEAN SUMMER.

BUT NOW IT MEANS APRIL, MAY, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, YOU'RE STILL COOLING.

YOU'RE ABOUT FOUR AND FOUR.

IT WORKS BEST WITH A BALANCED HEATING COOLING LOAD.

I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN DISTRICT REGIONALLY IS SCHOOLS ARE BECOMING MORE UTILIZED IN THE SUMMER THAN THEY USED TO BE FOR LOTS OF THINGS.

POST ROAD AND WHITE PLAINS WAS THE FIRST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO BE AIR CONDITIONED, AND THEY DIDN'T PLAN TO USE IT IN THE SUMMER UNTIL IT OPENED AND IT'S USED ALL SUMMER.

I THINK THAT YOU WOULD FIND THE SIMILAR THINGS HERE, BUT I THINK WITH WARMING, YOU'RE GETTING CLOSER TO A BALANCED HEATING AND COOLING LOAD JUST DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.

THAT JUST MAKES IT MORE EFFICIENT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN IT FAILS.

BUT, LITERALLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I LIKE THE PHRASE GROUND SOURCE HEAT PUMP BETTER THAN GEOTHERMAL, YOU'RE LITERALLY TAKING HEAT FROM THE GROUND, AND PUTTING IT BACK, AND USING IT AGAIN.

AS IT CYCLES, IT STARTS TO GET MORE EFFICIENT.

IF YOU JUST USE ONE CYCLE OR THE OTHER, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT AS EFFICIENT.

>> I GUESS I'D JUST ADD TWO THINGS TO THAT.

ONE, JIM AND I WERE TALKING EARLIER TODAY, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ACTUALLY ARE USED A LOT DURING THE SUMMER FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, SUMMER SCHOOL AND THE REC PROGRAMS, SO THERE ACTUALLY IS A LOT OF USE THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE AIR CONDITIONING FOR AT LEAST PORTIONS OF THE DAY OVER THE SUMMER.

THEN THE OTHER WAS, YOU MENTIONED HUGUENOT AND THE NON-SCIENTIFIC CHARACTERIZATION OF THAT, I WOULD SAY, WAS THAT IT'S BEEN A HOME RUN FOR THEM IN TERMS OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY'VE HAD FINANCIALLY USING THE SYSTEM.

>> HOW LONG AGO DID THEY PUT THEIRS IN?

>> I THINK KATE SAID 15 YEARS AGO, 10 YEARS AGO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> THE OPERATING COSTS, AGAIN THEY SAID, OH, MY GOSH, I CAN'T BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S AFFORDED THEM A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY COULDN'T NORMALLY DO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW REALIZING THOSE SAVINGS.

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>> WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, DARRA, AND ALSO WILL, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO EXPLAIN THIS TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY'RE MORE INFORMED TO MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD PERSONALLY IS SUPPORT FOR IT? BUT WE'RE SEVEN PEOPLE, AND WE'RE HEARING FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I AGREE.

IF SOMEONE DOESN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING OR THEY'RE ON THE FENCE, THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE NO ON MAY 20TH.

WHAT DO WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DO IF WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF IT TO COMMUNICATE IT SO THAT AT LEAST IF THEY'RE VOTING NO, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

THEY DON'T REALLY GET IS THIS REALLY A VALUE, OR WHAT SAVINGS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT CAN WE DO WITH ONLY 2% DESIGN AND MAYBE IT'S YOUR SECOND OPTION?

>> WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE THING WE CAN WE'RE GOING TO BE ASSEMBLING THE BONDS STEERING COMMITTEE SO WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THEIR INPUT ONTO THIS.

I GUESS THE TWO THOUGHTS I HAVE IS YOU COULD DEFER THE DECISION AND BRING IT TO A VOTE A DIFFERENT TIME.

OR I'M HEARING A MIX OF SUPPORT FROM THE BOARD IN TRYING TO FIND THAT MIDDLE GROUND.

THERE COULD BE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

THIS VOTE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE UP SEEING IT, BUT ALSO HAD CONCERNS.

BUT THAT COULD GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE CHANCE TO JUST WEIGH IN ON THAT.

>> THAT IS MY SPECIFIC CONCERN IS THAT I THINK IT'S VALUABLE.

I THINK WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET THE COMMUNITY THERE, BUT WHAT IF WE DON'T, AND IT'S TIED TO.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SEE GEOTHERMAL AND CONFUSION AROUND GEOTHERMAL TAKE DOWN SOMETHING RIGHT.

>> SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH.

>> I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ON SUSTAINABILITY AND GEOTHERMAL FOR THE SCHOOLS.

I JUST WANT TO POSITION THESE PROJECTS THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO THEM, WE HAVE TO GET THE COMMUNITY TO VOTE.

>> TO VOTE. YES. THEY HAVE TO BUY IT.

>> IS THERE A WAY TO SHOW WHAT OUR CURRENT CARBON FOOTPRINT IS?

>> I'M SURE THERE IS, BUT IT WOULD TAKE SOME ANALYSIS.

>> WE'VE GOT FROM MARCH TO MAY TO EDUCATE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS ALL TONIGHT, BUT I THINK MAKING WISE DECISIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> HOW DO WE PUT THINGS FORWARD. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO, HOW DO WE STRUCTURE IT, THEN WE HAVE GOT THE MARCHING ORDERS ABOUT HOW TO THEN WORK ON INFORMING THE COMMUNITY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK WITH THAT, IT MIGHT BE WORTH HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS OF IF THIS GETS A YES, THIS DOESN'T GET A YES, AND THEN WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK AROUND INFORMING THE COMMUNITY, I THINK CASE STUDIES MIGHT BE REALLY HELPFUL LIKE HUGUENOT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE HARD NUMBERS WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, BUT I DO AGREE.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ON SUSTAINABILITY EITHER, BUT IT WOULD REALLY BE UNFORTUNATE THEN BECAUSE THERE IS SO MANY FOLKS THAT JUST DON'T HAVE AN OPINION THAT THEY'D RATHER SAY NO, AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE GOES DOWN WITH IT, SOMETHING ELSE IMPORTANT.

OR WE COULD LOOK AT IT THE OTHER WAY, SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE ARE, AND IT'S JUST A SMALL TACK ON INCLUDED IT IN.

>> I PUT MYSELF IN THE SHOES OF SOMEONE WHO'S IN THE VOTING BOOTH, AND WE'RE ASKING A LOT.

WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BUDGET, WE'RE ASKING TO BUY A HOUSE, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BOND, AM I MISSING ANYTHING? I THINK THOSE ARE THREE PRIMARY THINGS.

AN ELECTION? THERE'S AN ELECTION, APPARENTLY.

[LAUGHTER] THERE'S A LOT FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE IN, AND I AM JUST CONCERNED THAT BECAUSE GEOTHERMAL IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT MYSELF, THAT I DON'T WANT THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO ASK TOO MUCH OF THE VOTER IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T PRODUCE POSITIVE OUTCOME. THAT'S IT.

>> I THINK IF IT WERE, AND I JUST HAVE TO TALK IT THROUGH, NOT SAYING THIS IS HOW WE WOULD DO IT, BUT IF IF IT WERE SEPARATE, THEN IT COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THAT.

>> IT WOULDN'T.

>> THE VOTER COULD VOTE NOW.

>> A VOTER COULD VOTE NOW FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY WOULD,

[02:40:02]

BUT NOT HAVE IT EFFECT, LET'S SAY, INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS CRITICAL.

THIS IS LIKE A OPERATIONAL OR PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

DO WE NEED TO HAVE CONSENSUS AMONGST US ABOUT HAVING INCLUDING GEOTHERMAL.

>> WHAT WE NEED IS MARCHING ORDERS OF WHAT TO PREPARE FOR RESOLUTION FOR NEXT WEEK. TO A DEGREE, YES.

>> DO WE NEED TO HAVE CONSENSUS ON WHAT THOSE ARE, WHAT IT IS HOW.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE NEED WALKING OUT OF HERE TONIGHT.

AS WAS SAID ELOQUENTLY, EARLIER, WE WANT TO BE WHILE IT'S STILL TODAY.

>> WHILE STILL TODAY.

>> DO WE NEED CONSENSUS ON HOW IT WILL GO OR JUST WHAT WE WANT?

>> HOW IT WILL GO.

>> HOW IT'S STRUCTURED.

>> IT'S MULTIPLE PROPOSITION I GUESS MAYBE LET ME POSE THE QUESTION OF IS THERE CONSENSUS AROUND HAVING GEOTHERMAL? I'M HEARING THAT PEOPLE STILL WANT TO KEEP IT ON THE TABLE.

IS THERE CONSENSUS AROUND KEEPING IT ON AS A SEPARATE PROPOSITION? OR ARE WE STILL NOT THERE YET.

>> I WOULD SAY I WANT TO KEEP IT IN, BUT AS A SEPARATE PROPOSITION.

TO MAKE A CHOICE TODAY, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY IT TODAY, BECAUSE I'M NOT WILLING TO WALK AWAY FROM IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE I VALUE IT, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND LIKE FOR THE LONG TERM HEALTH OF OUR DISTRICT AND JUST FOR OUR PLANET.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION AND CONFLICTED FEELINGS.

I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONFLICTED FEELINGS AROUND, LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT, LIKE FEEL CONFLICTED WITH NOT FULLY TRULY UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT TO THE DISTRICT, AND THEN MAYBE AND PAYING FOR THAT, NOT UNDERSTANDING, LIKE HOW MUCH SAVINGS THEY'RE GOING TO SEE.

I DO THINK IT'S A CONFUSING THING TO THINK ABOUT.

>> THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL THEN, TOO.

LIKE, LET'S JUST SAY WE SEPARATED AND IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, DOING THE AC AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, DOES IT SET US UP FOR MAYBE THE COMMUNITY'S JUST NOT READY, BUT MAYBE THEY'LL BE READY.

DO YOU KNOW LIKE GAL ROAD?

>> WELL, IF YOU DON'T DO GEOTHERMAL, WE'RE GOING TO BE BUYING CONDENSING UNITS AND BOILERS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE GEOTHERMAL UNTIL THAT EQUIPMENT IS DONE.

>> THIS IS ONCE NOW OR FOREVER HOLD IT FOR 20 YEARS.

>> THE LIFE OF THE HEATING PLAN AND THE COOLING PLAN WOULD BE YOUR NEXT OPPORTUNITY FROM A RESPONSIBLE ECONOMIC.

THAT'S WAY OF DOING IT.

>> 2025. THE LAST BOILERS HAVE LASTED.

THE LAST BOILERS HAVE LASTED HOW MANY.

>> 2025.

>> THIS IS.

>> THIRTY YEARS, MAYBE.

>> IT'S A 25 YEARS DECISION.

>> I THINK THE IDEA OF MAKING IT A SEPARATE PROPOSITION, FRANKLY, JUST AS AN OBSERVER OF BONDS, IS YOUR DECISION SEEMS PRETTY SENSIBLE.

>> BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T PASS.

BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THE MIXED FEELINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> TRY AND GET AS MUCH INFORMATION.

>> THERE'S TIME RIGHT BETWEEN.

>> WE'VE GOT TIME BUT I DO THINK IT'S REALLY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS, TOO.

I'VE HEARD A LOT. I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS HAPPENING.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY MAKE A VERY GOOD PLAN TO OUTREACH EDUCATE FOLKS SO THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION AND UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY DON'T VOTE, YES, THEN 25 YEARS LATER IS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.

>> WE CAN HELP YOU WITH THE EDUCATION PIECE.

THE CASE STUDIES THERE THE PUTNAM VALLEY SCHOOL DISTRICT, I'M SURE WALT TOLD YOU HAS HAD GEOTHERMAL FOR LIKE 30 YEARS.

IT'S NOT NEW THERE. IT'S THERE HAS BEEN SOME BAD PRESS ABOUT SYSTEMS. THEY'RE MOSTLY OPEN LOOP SYSTEMS, AND WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT.

THE CLOSED LOOP VERY RELIABLE BEEN IN USE IN EUROPE FOR 50 YEARS NOW.

>> THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH CHANGE TO THOSE SYSTEMS.

>> THEY'VE GOTTEN BETTER AS THE HEAT EXCHANGERS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER.

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CLOSED LOOP AND OPEN LOOP? IF IT COULD BE DONE QUICKLY.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO TONIGHT.

>> OPEN LOOP ACTUALLY USES THE GROUNDWATER.

>> BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE IT.

>> IT TAKES WATER FROM YOUR AQUIFER AND USES THAT AND REJECTS OTHER WATER.

CLOSED LOOP JUST USES THE TEMPERATURE TO CHANGE THE WATER IN THE CLOSED LOOP HAS ZERO IMPACT ON GROUNDWATER.

[02:45:05]

OPEN LOOP HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND HAS BEEN IN USE.

BUT IF PEOPLE ARE ON WELLS OR CONCERNED ABOUT AQUIFER POLLUTION, IT'S RISKY.

>> I THOUGHT THAT WALTER HAD SAID SOMETHING LAST NIGHT ABOUT IT POTENTIALLY NOT BEING AN OPTION FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BUT I COULD BE MISREMEMBERED.

>> I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IT WOULD BE.

>> FINAL THOUGHTS ON THIS.

>> NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I PERSONALLY I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN GEOTHERMAL JUST AS PART OF THE PACKAGE OF OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LUMPED TOGETHER BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST PART OF THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THE HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEMS. BUT I COULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH DOING IT AS A SEPARATE PROPOSAL, WHICH I THINK SEEMS TO BE WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE.

>> I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BECAUSE IT FITS IN WITH THE AC.

>> IT FITS IN WITH THE AC, IT FITS IN WITH THE STRATEGIC VIEWS AROUND STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS AROUND ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, CHECKS AND BOXES FOR US.

BUT I UNDERSTAND.

>> I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DO BETTER EDUCATION.

>> YOU SAID IT, WHY A VOTE FOR IT?

>> IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL.

>> IT WILL PUT MORE ON US PROBABLY TO GET THE YES.

I THINK THAT'S JUST WHAT THIS DOES.

>> I AGREE. I WOULD WANT TO SEE IT.

TO HAVE IT, WE NEED THE COMMUNITY TO VOTE YES.

IF HAVING IT SEPARATE MAKES THAT MORE LIKELY, THEN I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

>> I JUST THINK RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE LOOK AT NUMBERS AND THEY JUST GET AFRAID BECAUSE THERE'S A.

WELL WAS SAYING THERE'S THE HOUSE HAS COME UP.

IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T WALK AWAY FROM BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION.

WE HAVE OUR BUDGET, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND GIVEN THE PARAMETERS AND CONCERNS IN THE ECONOMY TODAY.

WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST. I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AT HOLDING THINGS STEADY.

THEN THIS IS THE TIME BECAUSE THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME, AS WELL HAD STATED BEFORE.

SOME OTHER POINT, LIKE, THERE'S JUST NEVER A GOOD TIME, BUT THIS IS THE TIME TO LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE CAN'T DELAY THAT ANY FURTHER.

WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO ALSO LOOK AT HOW WE COMBINE SOME THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FOR THE DISTRICT, AND THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THAT ADDITION TO AND ADDRESS THAT FULLY.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK PART OF THE COMMUNICATION ALSO THAT WE NEED TO PUT OUT THERE IS THAT IF SOMETHING IS COMING TO THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE.

WE'RE A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT DOES NOT OPERATE LIKE A HOUSE AND IF IT BREAKS, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN JUST BUY A NEW ONE TOMORROW.

OR WE NEED TO LOOK MANY YEARS OUT.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS TODAY.

I THINK FOR THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS CLEAR. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

YOU LOOK AND SEE, THE ROOF LOOKS FINE, OR IS IT LEAKING? WHATEVER QUESTIONS WE MIGHT GET.

BUT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THINGS THAT, I THINK, UNLESS YOU SIT HERE AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THE INTRICACIES OF WHAT IT TAKES TO ACTUALLY PUT SOMETHING NEW IN, THE AVERAGE COMMUNITY MEMBER IS THEY'RE BUSY.

THEY'RE UNAWARE OF THAT DETAIL.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE EDUCATION IS ACTUALLY PUTTING THAT OUT THERE, SAYING, HERE'S WHY.

YES, THESE ARE NOT I FORGET IN THE BUILDING CONDITION SURVEY.

IT WAS A LEVEL 1 THAT WAS LIKE.

>> THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ROOF.

IT'S A PRIORITY 3.

>> PRIORITY 3.

>> THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

>> NEARING AT THE END OF IT JUST LIFE.

>> THANKFULLY THERE WERE NO ONES, WHICH MEANS.

>> EXACTLY. LIKE THE ONES, I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND LIKE, IT'S FIRE HAZARD, YES.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT THE THREES THE TWOS ARE THE TWOS IN THERE.

I FORGET IF WE HAD BUT LET'S SAY WITH LIKE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ROOF.

IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE OF US AS A BOARD TO NOT BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THESE THINGS AND TO MAKE DECISIONS TODAY ABOUT THEM.

I KNOW IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

[02:50:02]

I COULD LOOK AT MY HOUSE AND SAY I'VE LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR 17 YEARS.

I'VE NOT TOUCHED THAT ROOF.

IT'S PROBABLY WAY PAST.

IT'S IT'S LIFETIME, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY LEAKS, SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT ALONE.

WE CAN'T DO AS A SCHOOL BOARD, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE OF US.

>> WE CAN'T BE REACTIVE.

>> REACT AND WE'RE ALSO NOT PLANNING JUST FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

>> WE'RE 3-5 YEARS BEFORE ANY OF THIS WORK IS COMPLETED.

>> ALSO, LONGER TERM THAN THAT.

>> MARY, A GOOD EXAMPLE THAT WE COULD USE AS TO YOUR POINT FOR AN EDUCATION PIECE IS THE HVAC UNIT THAT TOOK.

>> FAILED TO MIDDLE SCHOOL.

>> THEN WE JUST HAD THE FLOOD AND THEN TRYING TO REPLACE A UNIT ON THE ROOF.

THAT TOOK YEARS.

IT TOOK THREE YEARS TO REPLACE A UNIT THAT FAILED, OR YOU KNEW IT WAS FAILING.

>> TWO YEARS.

>> THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EDUCATIONAL PIECE.

>> IF I BRING US BACK AROUND DECISION POINTS.

I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY MESSAGE VERY WELL RECEIVED.

THE COMMUNICATION IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.

I THINK WE NEED TO COME TO CONSENSUS ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMUNICATING. WRAP THINGS UP.

I KNOW, JACKIE, YOU HAD PRESENTED THE IDEA BACK AT THE OPENING ABOUT TWO PROPOSITIONS.

THAT WAS BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT GEOTHERMAL. A SEPARATE.

>> I THINK I SAID 2-3.

>> I'M GOING TO ASK DO YOU HAVE A STARTING POINT FOR US OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO REACT TO?

>> FOR THE FIRST ONE.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MY TAKE ON PRIORITY.

I THINK EVERYTHING IS A PRIORITY.

I'M TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THE TAX IMPACT, AND WHAT AND WHAT MAY ULTIMATELY BE ABLE TO PASS WITH COMMUNITY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO I CAN ASK THIS QUESTION TO.

BUT IN RECENT BONDS, HAVE BONDS OF THIS SIZE PASSED OR.

>> HAVE YOU BEEN SEEING A BOND?

>> WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN.

>> TAX NEUTRAL, TAX ADDITIVE.

>> WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN.

>> JUST VERY QUICKLY, WHAT DO YOU TRENDS ARE YOU SEEING RIGHT NOW?

>> TO SET THE STAGE.

>> THE TREND HAS BEEN FOR MOST OF THE MAJOR BONDS, AND I'LL SAY ANYTHING OVER $50 BILLION TEND TO BE TAX NEUTRAL.

>> MAKE SENSE.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN BOSS DISTRICTS THAT HAVE GONE OUT FOR BONDS IN THE PAST YEAR OR TWO THAT ARE, I CAN GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES, IF YOU LIKE.

OSNING HAD A $210 MILLION BOND THAT PASSED.

>> THAT ONE WAS TAX NEUTRAL.

>> TAX NEUTRAL. I THINK THAT'S THE KEY PART.

>> ARLINGTON HAD $143 MILLION BOND PASS.

I THINK TWO THIRDS OF THAT WAS TAX NEUTRAL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW BOSS WORKS INTO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A BIG ARTS OF BOSS PROGRAM, BUT THERE ARE LARGE BONDS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

BUT VERY LARGE CHUNKS OF IT IS TAX NEUTRAL SHIFTING GENERAL CAPITALS OR COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> WE HAVE SOME ARTICLES.

>> WE DID A BIG ONE TOO.

>> ART JUST DID ONE EDGEMONT JUST DID ONE AND PASSED.

THOSE WERE ALSO TAX NEUTRAL.

>> TAX NEUTRAL.

>> I THINK BOTH OF THOSE WE AROUND 55, 59 MILLION.

>> GIVING MY JUST A STARTING POINT FOR OUR FIRST PROPOSITION, I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE WHAT DOES MOST TAX NEUTRAL LOOK LIKE.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, I THINK THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEN AND THEN SWAY.

PLUS AC FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

>> IN THE FIRST ONE.

>> IN THE FIRST ONE? THAT'S WHAT I'M THROWING.

>> THAT'S TAX NEUTRAL ISH.

>> IT'S TAX NEUTRAL IS.

>> WE'RE TAX NEUTRAL LEFT TO 65.

I'M DOING THE QUICK MATH ON THAT.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OVER THAT.

YOU SAID AC FOR THE ELEMENTARY.

>> AC FOR THE ELEMENTARIES.

>> JIM, DID I DO IS THAT 96 ISH? I'M DOING 54 MILLION PLUS 28, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT EVEN WE HAVE TO DO CONTEMPLATE WHETHER WE WANTED P 30? WE ROUND IT UP TO 30, 50 FLOOR, SO IT'S 8,094.5.

[02:55:10]

>>TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE OF 30 MILLION.

JIM, I DON'T KNOW THROUGH THE MAGIC OF EXCEL CALCULATING.

>> THAT IS ADDITIVE.

>> THIS WOULD BE OVER 50% TAX.

>> AGAIN, I CAN SHARE, IF YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE, AGAIN, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ELEMENTARY AIR CONDITIONING.

>> SIXTY FIVE OUT OF 95.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE HERE? YES. A $14.4 MILLION; 28 AT SINO.

>> PLUS TWO.

>> I DON'T HAVE THE PLUS TWO, BUT I'VE GOT THE DISTRICT OFFICES IN THERE, WHICH I JUST, YOU KNOW, WHICH ARE NOT BEING CONTEMPLATED THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AS A PLACE.

THAT BROUGHT US TO ABOUT 97.8 MILLION.

ON THE AVERAGE ASSESSED PROPERTY, 01,189,000, THAT'S AN ESTIMATED IMPACT OF ABOUT $335.

>> WHAT WAS THAT?

>> THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS.

>> WE'RE ABOVE NEUTRAL.

>> IT'S $335 ANNUAL.

>> STARTING 335 GROWING EACH YEAR.

IT'S 335.

>> TOTAL.

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE THE INCREASE.

AVERAGE THE AVERAGE ASSED HOME OF 1,189,000. JUST UNDER 1, 2.

>> YOU SAID.

>> THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE

>> BUT THEN THAT'S NOT INCLUDING ANYTHING FOR A HIGH SCHOOL.

>> THAT'S RIGHT WHICH I THINK SHOULD BE SPLIT OUT.

EVEN THOUGH I THINK THEY'RE BOTH HIGH PRIORITY, THAT WE HAVE TO SPLIT THE TWO MAJOR PROJECTS INTO TWO PROPOSITIONS.

>> I THINK THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT IN A WAY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DOLLARS AMOUNT IS WHAT COULD BE TAX NEUTRAL?

>> WHAT IS ADDITIVE TO AND WHILE I WOULD LOVE FOR BOTH OF THEM TO BE CONSIDERED TAX NEUTRAL.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE NOT.

BUT I DO AGREE THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE.

>> CAN I ADD ONE MORE PIECE TOO AND I'M SORRY IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO ADD.

>> I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT WOULD SAY MAYBE SEPARATE OUT INFRASTRUCTURE FROM SIWANOY FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE APPROVED FOR ANY WORK AT SIWANOY WITHOUT ADA BEING DONE, MEANING WE CAN'T JUST DO INFRASTRUCTURE.

IF WE JUST PASSED INFRASTRUCTURE ALONE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANY OF THAT WORK OR CONSIDER FULLY AIR CONDITIONING AT SIWANOY BECAUSE WE HADN'T DONE THE ADA WORK.

I THINK THERE'S A LOGIC TO HAVING TO PAIR THEM JUST FROM A LOGISTICAL APPROVAL.

>> IF WE DID IT THE OTHER WAY, AND IT WAS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEN SIWANOY AS A SEPARATE PROPOSITION DIDN'T PASS, WE COULD NOT DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT SIWANOY.

>> JUST TO TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

NO, I THINK I SAID THERE WAS AN OPTION THAT'S OF TAX NEUTRAL ISSUE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ISN'T ACTUALLY.

>> NO. I THOUGHT MAYBE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN BUT MAYBE WITHOUT THE AIR CONDITIONING.

>> WITHOUT THE ACS.

>> I THINK IT WAS WITHOUT THE AC.

>> AIR CONDITIONING OFF THAT'S A REDUCED 14.4, YOU'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 80 MILLION.

>> THAT'S TAX NEUTRAL.

>> WHICH IS STILL-ISH SMALLER AMOUNT, 150 A MONTH.

>> USING THE SAME MIXED INFRASTRUCTURE, SIWANOY, AND THEN WE'LL KEEP IT DISTRICT OFFICES ASSUMING THAT ONE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> FOR THE TWO.

>> I THINK THE AVERAGE ASSESSED WAS $133 ADDITION TO THAT.

>> THAT'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND SIWANOY. NO AC.

>> NO AC.

>> NO AC FOR THE ELEMENTARY.

>> I THINK THE ONLY TAX NEUTRAL OPTION IS IF WE JUST DID WHICH WE WON'T WORK WITHOUT DOING SIWANOY, BUT IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT WE CAN'T DO SIWANOY.

>> THE ONLY TAX NEUTRAL OFFER IS SIWANOY.

>> [INAUDIBLE] STRUCTURE EVERYWHERE EXERCISE IS SIWANOY, ACTUALLY.

>> SAY IT AGAIN..

>> YOU COULD FLIP IT. SIWANOY HAS TO COME FIRST BECAUSE IT'S THE ADA COMPLIANT.

WE COULDN'T DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT SIWANOY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE COULD DO THE GEOTHERMAL EVERYWHERE ELSE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> [INAUDIBLE] BUT NOT SIWANOY.

BUT THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S NOT WE CAN'T DO THEN INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE OTHER SCHOOLS.

IT'S THAT THEN SIWANOY DOESN'T GET ANYTHING.

[03:00:09]

>> THERE MIGHT BE A WAY THAT YOU COULD MIX IT UP AND DO SIWANOY AND JUST HEATING PLANTS AND NOT DO WINDOWS, NOT DO ROOFS, THAT WOULD BE TAX NEUTRAL, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK IN PROSPECT NEEDS A NEW ROOF.

THE NEED DON'T MATCH UP TO THE 65.

>> THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU EVEN WANT TO MAKE THE FIRST PROPOSITION LOWER BY TAKING OUT ELEMENTARY AIR CONDITIONING AND PUTTING THAT IN TO THE SECOND.

I THINK ELEMENTARY AIR CONDITIONING IS SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU COULD PUT AIR CONDITIONING AND GEOTHERMAL TOGETHER AS A PROPOSAL BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY DO GEOTHERMAL IF YOU'RE DOING AIR CONDITIONING ALSO, SO THERE'S SOME LOGIC TO THAT, I DON'T KNOW, IF PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT'S BETTER THAN JUST INCLUDING IT WITH THE SIWANOY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I DON'T HAVE A STRONG FEELING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THAT.

BUT IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE A PROPOSAL THAT'S BASICALLY TAX NEUTRAL OR VERY CLOSE TO THAT, YOU COULD DO THAT AND PUT AC AS A SEPARATE.

I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE FOUR PROPOSALS.

>> NO.

>> NO, DEFINITELY NOT FOUR.

>> I AGREE.

>> NO, BUT THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA TO PUT THE AC WITH GEOTHERMAL.

>> IT IS INTERESTING.

>> DR. CHAN, YOU WERE GOING TO SAY.

>> I WAS AND I DON'T WANT TO MUDDY THE WATERS.

>> I KNOW WE [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO SOME DECISIONS, AND THIS IS NOT A GUARANTEE.

I GUESS THAT'S WHY I HATE TO THROW IT OUT THERE, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SENATOR FERNANDEZ, AND SHE'S WORKING ON TRYING TO GET US SOME FUNDING TO HELP SUPPORT AIR CONDITIONING.

WE JUST WILL NOT KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER THE BUDGET IS SET, WHICH IS AFTER WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR PRIORITIES, SO ONE THING I DID ASK HER IS IF SHE IS ABLE TO DELIVER IT, IF SHE COULD POTENTIALLY GET IT IN A WAY THAT HAS FLEXIBILITY.

>> ELEMENTARY?

>> YEAH. IF WE DO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE ELEMENTARY AIR CONDITIONING IN THIS PROPOSITION AND NOT IN THE HIGH SCHOOL PROPOSITION THAT WE COULD THEN, IF SHE IS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH WITH FUNDING, THEN USE THAT TO THEN FULLY AIR CONDITION THE HIGH SCHOOL.

>> THEN IT BECOMES TAX NEUTRAL.

>> IT DEFINITELY ADDS TO THAT.

THAT'S WITH KEEPING AN ELEMENTARY AC IN THE FIRST PROPOSITION OR HAVING IT WITH GEOTHERMAL AS A SEPARATE ONE?

>> HOW IS THAT FOR TAX?

>> I THINK WITH EITHER ONE.

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER.

>> IT WOULDN'T MATTER.

>> WHAT I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IS TAKE AC OUT ALTOGETHER, COUNTING ON IT.

IT WILL BE A GREAT ONE.

>> I WILL REMIND US THAT WE GOT GRANT FUNDING FOR SECURITY CAMERAS.

JIM, WAS THAT THREE YEARS AGO? TWO YEARS AGO. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON.

JIM'S OFFICE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING.

>> IT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS. IT'S A PROCESS.

>> IT'S A PROCESS. AGAIN, IT'S OUT THERE.

IT'S A WONDERFUL THING WE'RE HOPING THE THINGS SHE IS ADVOCATING FOR US.

BUT UNTIL WE CAN SEE THAT, WE CAN'T REALLY COUNT ON IT.

>> BUT IF IT DID COME THROUGH, AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO AC IN THE ELEMENTARY IS THROUGH THE BOND, AND THEN THAT GRANT CAME THROUGH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE HIGH SCHOOL?

>> THEN STILL CONSIDER, LET'S SAY WE DID ELEMENTARY AC WITH GEOTHERMAL, IT PASSED, THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, LET'S SAY THAT THAT GRANT MONEY CAME THROUGH, REVISIT GEOTHERMAL THEN.

>> AT THE HIGH SCHOOL?

>> I THINK IT WOULD DEPEND FROM A TIMELINE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE AS WE SAID EARLIER.

>> WE COULD.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO COME TO CONSENSUS AROUND WHERE WE'RE AT.

>> FOR THE FIRST PROP.

>> IS THERE CONSENSUS AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE AND SIWANOY IN THE FIRST? I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S THE SIMPLE QUESTION.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD BUNDLE AC IN THERE.

>> ELEMENTARY AC.

>> THAT'LL BE THE NEXT QUESTION. DO WE WANT? IS THERE CONSENSUS AROUND PUTTING AC THERE, OR IS THERE MORE INTEREST IN PUTTING AC SEPARATELY WITH GEOTHERMAL?

[03:05:02]

>> I THINK TACTICALLY, I PREFER TO HAVE AC IN WITH INFRASTRUCTURE IN SIWANOY BECAUSE IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S UNIVERSALLY POPULAR, AND YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR THE OTHER IMPORTANT STUFF IN THAT PROPOSITION.

>> THEN HOW ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL?

>> ONE THING A TIME.

>> CAN WE LOOK AT IT?

>> BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY YES YET TO THAT WITHOUT THE STRATEGY AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL.

WHAT WOULD THAT PROPOSITION INCLUDE? IS IT IF THIS PASSES, THIS HAS TO PASS?

>> PERSONALLY, I THINK IT HAS TO BE AN IF, THIS, THEN THAT FOR PROP 2 BECAUSE IF WE'RE AGREED THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE ABSOLUTE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THE LAST THING WE'D WANT TO BE IN IS A POSITION WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOL PASSED, THE INFRASTRUCTURE DIDN'T PASS SO I THINK THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR SPLITTING UP.

WHAT WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR CLARITY ON?

>> THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND PROPOSITION, WHICH IS SCENARIO.

>> WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE ADDITION AND THE RENOVATIONS.

ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE?

>> THAT'S THE QUESTION. IF WE PLAN FOR AIR CONDITIONING WITH THE ELEMENTARY PROP 1, THEN WE HOPE THAT SENATOR FERNANDEZ WILL COME THROUGH WITH MONEY THAT COULD GIVE US AIR CONDITIONING FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO.

>> RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE FOCUS ON THE AC FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS BECAUSE THAT SEEMS REALLY CRITICAL SOMEWHERE, WHETHER IT'S WITH GEO OR NOT, I THINK THAT WILL BE FOR DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE REALLY WANT THE HIGH SCHOOL TO GO THROUGH, AND IF WE THROW ON THE AC, IT JUST MIGHT BE TOO MUCH FOR FOLKS.

>> IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE.

>> IT JUST MIGHT BE TOO MUCH FOR FOLKS. THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

>> ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT 70 OR 75% OF THE CLASSROOMS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL ARE ALREADY AIR CONDITIONED.

>> DOES THE HOUSE PURCHASE WE CAN TAKE OUT THE TECH ROOM.

>> THE DISTRICT, THE TECH ROOM RENOVATION, I THINK, WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT.

>> THAT'S 1.2 MILLION.

>> OR LEAVE IT IN FOR ESCALATION.

>> I THINK THE AC CONVERSATION IS A LITTLE.

>> NOW, WE'RE DOWN TO AC AND GEOTHERMAL. WHERE DO THEY GO?

>> ARE THEY SEPARATE OR THEY?

>> BUT THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE AC FIT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEATING-COOLING UNITS.

THAT JUST MAKES SENSE.

BUT THEN IT ALSO MAKES SENSE TO PUT IT WITH GEOTHERMAL BECAUSE IT IS.

THAT'S WHERE I'M PERSONALLY CONFLICTED, WHERE DOES THE AC GO? I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN BEHIND US.

I THINK IT'S A SHAME.

I DO KNOW WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL OLD BUILDINGS, BUT THE REALITY IS, WE NEED HEATING AND COOLING MECHANISMS TO MAKE SURE THE KIDS ARE COMFORTABLE AND THE TEACHERS AND EVERYONE WHO USES OUR BUILDINGS, AND YES, SCHOOL DOESN'T HAPPEN DURING THE SUMMER, BUT IT'S HOT IN SEPTEMBER, AND IT'S HOT IN OCTOBER, MAY AND JUNE, AND WE KNOW BECAUSE OF NEW YORK STATE, WE GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE END OF JUNE, MOSTLY ALL OF OUR SCHOOL YEARS SO WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN.

WHILE WE ARE PUTTING IN WINDOW UNITS, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A LONG TERM PLAN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.

CONFLICTED JUST WHERE SHOULD GO.

TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF WE HAVE TO HAVE IT.

>> WE DO WANT TO TRY A FIST OF FIVE.

IT WORKED FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING.

>> BUT CAN WE SAY OUT LOUD WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WE'RE SEEKING.

>> WE'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW, PROPOSITION A, INFRASTRUCTURE AND SIWANOY.

LET'S STOP THERE FOR A MOMENT.

ARE WE AGREED ON THAT PIECE?

>> YES, AT LEAST.

>> FIVE.

>> THAT'S A FIVE. FIVE.

>> THEN, TWO, HIGH SCHOOL.

GOOD. HIGH SCHOOL AIR CONDITIONING. IS THAT GOING TO GO IN?

>> THAT WAS 14 MILLION?

>> THAT'S 15.5.

>> THAT'S A HARD SELL.

>> IT IS, AND WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF SENATOR FERNANDEZ, AND WE HAVE 75%.

>> AIR CONDITIONING ALREADY.

>> GEOTHERMAL WOULD BE ANOTHER SIX OR SEVEN, I THINK.

>> BUT OUR NEW UNITS THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HANDLE THE LOAD OF AC IF THAT COMES LATER? THE NEW, LIKE WE DOING THE BOILERS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE ON THE LOAD.

[03:10:08]

IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR AC TODAY, BUT THEN WE HAVE A GRANT AND WE COULD.

>> IT'S A QUESTION REALLY FOR US.

IF WE APPROVE HYDRONIC UPGRADES TO THE HIGH SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THEN AT A LATER DATE, WE GET THE FUNDING FOR AIR CONDITIONING.

>> THAT WORKS.

>> THAT'S FINE.

>> YOU CAN DO THAT. YOU JUST CAN'T DO BOILERS AND GEOTHERMAL.

>> GOT IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

>> LEAVING HIGH SCHOOL AIR CONDITIONING OUT OF PROPOSITION.

>> I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

>> GOOD? AT LEAST FOUR.

THEN IT'S THE QUESTION OF AIR CONDITIONING PAIRED WITH GEOTHERMAL.

>> SORRY, AIR CONDITIONING FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS?

>> AIR CONDITIONING PAIRED WITH GEOTHERMAL FOR THE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT IT MIGHT BE VIABLE.

>> THE ORDER WE PUT IT IN THE FIRST PROPOSITION.

>> ON THE FIRST PROPOSITION OR THE LAST PROPOSITION.

>> WE GOT EITHER. YOU'RE RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SUGGESTION FOR GEOTHERMAL IN PROPOSITION A.

>> NO, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT ELEMENTARY.

>> IT'S EITHER A B AS DISCUSSED.

GEOTHERMAL AS ITS OWN AND AC IN PROP A OR AC AND GEOTHERMAL TOGETHER.

>> THERE'S THREE IS WHAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE SIWANOY, HIGH SCHOOL AND GEOTHERMAL.

NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ELEMENTARY AC GOES.

>> LET'S JUST GET A PULSE CHECK.

>> ONE OR THREE.

>> YES. THOUGHTS ON FIST OF FIVE FOR IT GOING IN THE ELEMENTARY PROPOSITION A.

>> I'M LIKE, YEAH.

>> TOUGH ONE.

>> DARRA, YOU GOT TO WEIGH IN.

>> I HAVE TO WEIGH IN?

>> YEAH. YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON TOP.

>> WHAT'S THE THREE?

>> THREE IS I CAN LIVE WITH IT.

>> IT'S ONE OR TWO, YOU CAN'T LIVE WITH IT.

>> YES, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

I CAN'T COMMIT TO IT.

>> THIS IS, REPEAT THE QUESTION.

>> THIS IS FOR HAVING ELEMENTARY AIR CONDITIONING IN PROPOSITION A.

>> THREE IS, I CAN LIVE WITH IT. TWO IS?

>> ANYTHING, GO WITH THREE. YOU CAN'T GET BEHIND.

>> ONE, IS A COMPLETE NON STARTER.

TWO IS I HAVE CONCERNS.

THREE IS I CAN LIVE WITH IT.

>> I GUESS I WOULD BE A TWO BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE VOTE WOULD BE IF WE WERE ASKING THE OTHER QUESTION.

>> I ASK THE QUESTION NEXT.

>> I'M A THREE. I COULD LIVE WITH A, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE DID IT AS PART OF THE GEOTHERMAL. I DON'T KNOW.

>> CAN I MAKE A PITCH AGAINST THAT?

>> I THINK WE'VE AGREED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT POTENTIALLY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON GEOTHERMAL, AND I THINK THERE ARE VERY MIXED OPINIONS ABOUT IT.

>> I THINK THAT OVERSTATES THE PERSPECTIVES OF THE COMMUNITY ON THOSE TWO ISSUES.

BUT I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST LIKELY TO CARE ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING, A LOT OF THEM ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO CARE ABOUT GEOTHERMAL AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SPENDING MORE THAN WE HAVE TO ARE GOING TO BE AGAINST BOTH OF THEM.

I THINK IT ALIGNS THE TWO IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

>> I'M IN THAT CAMP WHERE I FEEL LIKE IF IT IS CONNECTED, IT MAKES SENSE TO BE CONNECTED.

THIS IS, LIKE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AS A WHOLE.

I THINK IT JUST MAKES IT AGAIN THE STEP CHILD.

LIKE IF WE REALLY SAY WE'RE COMMITTED TO SUSTAINABILITY AND EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY AND DOING THAT, I THINK THAT THIS IS THAT DECISION TO REALLY BE COMMITTED TO, DO YOU REALLY TO GIVING THIS A GO, TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE COMMUNITY BEHIND IT.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IF YOU TAKE IT AWAY, YOU'RE ALMOST SAYING TOSS IT OUT.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN EASY NO.

PEOPLE WON'T MAYBE GET EDUCATED.

THEY WON'T THINK ABOUT IT AS.

>> IF WE TAKE IT OUT OF GEOTHERMAL/.

>> IF YOU TAKE THE AC OUT OF GEOTHERMAL, TO ME, IT'S ALMOST LIKE TOSSING IT OUT.

IT'S JUST TOSSING IT OUT AS A SIDE NOTE, AND IT WON'T BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

>> BUT I DON'T LIKE FORCING PEOPLE TO TAKE GEOTHERMAL THEY MAY NOT AGREE WITH BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T GET AC.

>> THIS IS ONE WHERE I ACTUALLY THINK IF I HAD TO PRIORITIZE AC AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,

[03:15:04]

MAY VERY WELL KEEP SCHOOLS OPEN WHEN THEY WOULD ORDINARILY HAVE TO CLOSE BECAUSE OF THE NEW LAW WITH TEMPERATURE.

SCHOOL IS NOT GOING TO CLOSE IF WE DON'T HAVE GEOTHERMAL.

>> BUT WHAT ABOUT WINDOW UNITS, WOULD THAT SOLVE AGAINST THAT?

>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S OUR PLAN FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

>> THAT IS OUR PLAN FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

>> WE DO HAVE A PLAN B FOR THAT. THEY WON'T CLOSE.

>> IT'S THE MOST INEFFICIENT APPROACH.

>> AGREED, BUT THEY WON'T CLOSE.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> BUT THE WINDOW UNITS LONG TERM.

>> TERRIBLE SUGGESTION.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

>> IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE, IT'S NOISY.

>> IT'S TOO DISRUPTIVE TO LEARNING.

>> WE HAVE NEW AC, WHATEVER.

>> LET ME ASK THE OTHER QUESTION THEN. WE SAID WE'D ASK IT.

WHAT IS THE FIST TO FIVE ON PAIRING AC AND GEOTHERMAL? I DON'T GET A VOTE, SO I STAY OUT OF IT.

[LAUGHTER] THEN THE QUESTION IS, [OVERLAPPING] WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO CHOOSE?

>> IT'S A BINARY THING.

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD FORCE PEOPLE TO SWALLOW GEOTHERMAL BECAUSE THEY WANT AC.

I THINK YOU SHOULD FORCE PEOPLE TO SWALLOW ADA COMPLIANCE, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD FORCE PEOPLE TO SWALLOW SOMETHING.

I'VE JUST HEARD A LOT OF OPINIONS ABOUT FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO HORSE IN THE RACE, THEY'RE JUST VERY DOUBTFUL ABOUT IT.

IT'S LIKE, THE BURDEN IS ON US TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON GEOTHERMAL OVER THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY DAYS.

WHAT IF WE DON'T? THEN YOU DON'T GET AC IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

>> YOU'RE WITH WINDOW UNITS.

>> YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE ANOTHER.

>> I THINK THEY'LL HAVE A VOTE.

THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND EDUCATE AND MAKE THEIR VOTE.

NOTHING'S BEING FORCED TO ANYBODY, THIS IS THE COMMUNITY VOTE.

[OVERLAPPING] THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE APPROACH.

AC AND GEOTHERMAL, THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE APPROACH.

WE DO HAVE AC, YOU CAN PUT IN THE UNITS, SCHOOL WILL CONTINUE.

THERE'S NO FORCING. I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY.

>> IT'S ONLY THE UPPER FLOORS.

>> THE UPPER FLOORS WILL BE AIR CONDITIONED AS OF THE SPRING.

>> THAT SHOULD DO A LOT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE I'LL MAKE A SUGGESTION, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE HOUR.

WHAT IF JIM AND I GO BACK AND DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO.

SORRY, JIM, THIS IS GOING TO BE DOUBLE WORK.

>> IT'S WORK. IT'S WHAT WE DO. [LAUGHTER]

>> WHAT IF WE GO BACK AND PREPARE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF RESOLUTIONS, ONE WITH IT IN OPTION A, AND GEOTHERMAL ON ITS OWN.

ANOTHER ONE WITH AIR CONDITIONING NOT IN A, BUT AIR CONDITIONING PAIRED WITH GEOTHERMAL.

WE TAKE THE WEEK TO GET FEEDBACK.

WE TAKE THE WEEK TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH, AND WE COME BACK TO THIS CONVERSATION AT THE START OF THE MEETING.

>> WE'RE NOT FAR OFF THAT.

>> WE'RE NOT FAR OFF.

>> GREAT IDEA.

>> THEN WE'VE GOT BOTH OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, AND WE CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M A FIVE ON THAT.

>> FIVE ON THAT. [LAUGHTER]

>> WE'LL GIVE IT A FIVE.

>> CAN WE GET ALSO THAT TAX IMPACT ON JUST EACH OF THOSE.

>> THAT WILL ENABLE US TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT TAX IMPACTS FOR BOTH OPTIONS, FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS.

I KNOW WE ALREADY SAID YOU CAN ONLY GET PROP B IF PROP A PASSES.

I WOULD ALSO CONTEND THAT IF WE DO A THIRD PROP, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE WE ALREADY DID, THAT SHOULD ALSO BE CONNECTED TO THE FIRST ONE.

>> AT LEAST TO PROP A WHERE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS.

>> I AGREE.

>> THINK ABOUT THAT. IF WE WANT IT CONNECTED TO B AS WELL, THAT MIGHT BE MAYBE STRATEGIC.

>> I DON'T KNOW. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK, IS THE AGREED UPON CRITICAL.

GOOD WORK. WE'VE GOT CLEAR DIRECTIONS.

WE GOT A WEEK TO THINK ABOUT IT.

[BACKGROUND] I DON'T KNOW, ALEX, IF YOU AND I COULD THROW TOGETHER A SURVEY OR SOMETHING, MAYBE JUST ANOTHER WAY TO GET ONE MORE LAST PIECE OF FEEDBACK.

>> YES, REAL QUICK.

>> I KNOW, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SPARE TIME. WE'LL TALK. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. [BACKGROUND] NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU. YOU SPOKE TO US BEFORE ABOUT SEQRA, SO I THINK YOU'RE FREE TO GO HOME.

>> THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND]

>> TAKE CARE.

>> I'M GOING TO GIVE A QUICK THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR GETTING THROUGH THAT.

>> NO, THIS IS NOT EASY, AND IT'S IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.

>> I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE SAID TOO THAT I

[03:20:03]

THINK THE SEVEN OF US ARE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB.

[LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK.

I SEE US REALLY TRYING, AND I WANT TO SAY THIS OUT LOUD BECAUSE I SEE US REALLY TRYING TO TAKE IN ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY TO TRY TO STEER THIS SHIP IN THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO ASK FOR FEEDBACK, WE'RE CONTINUING TO ASK FOR PEOPLE TO TELL US THEIR THOUGHTS AND VIEWS ON WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE IT MAKES IT BETTER.

IT MAKES THE CONVERSATION BETTER, IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS, WE KNOW HOW TO STRUCTURE THINGS, WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST VALUABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

I DO WANT TO SAY, WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB, I THINK, TRYING TO DO THAT AND TAKING FEEDBACK FROM THE ADMINISTRATORS AND THE FACULTY AND THE COMMUNITY, AND MERGING ALL OF THAT TOGETHER TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN GET BEHIND BECAUSE THE DISTRICT NEEDS THIS.

THIS IS ABOUT THE FUTURE AND OUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE OUR KIDS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD FOR ALL THAT.

>> I'LL JUST ADD TOO, WILL AND I AGREE THAT A GOOD HEALTHY DEBATE ONLY MAKES THE END STRONGER.

SO I'M GLAD THAT [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THAT.

>> LET'S PLOW THROUGH SOME QUICK BUSINESS.

>> QUICK BUSINESS.

>> I KNOW. WAIT, WHAT?

>> BIG BUSINESS. IMPORTANT BUSINESS, BUT WE'LL BE STREAMLINED ABOUT ALL THAT.

>> AM I GOING BACK TO THE SEQRA 5.1?

>> YEAH, 5.1, AND I WOULD SAY YOU COULD DO 5.1-5.3.

I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME. NO.

>> NO.

>> WE NEEDED TO MAKE A CHANGE ON 5.3.

[OVERLAPPING] ONE AND TWO CAN BE DONE TOGETHER.

>> THE 5.2, WHICH IS THE HOUSE.

>> 5.1 AND 5.2 ARE THE HOUSE.

[5.1 Motion to Approve SEQRA Type II Resolution]

[5.2 Motion to Approve Resolution Authorizing Superintendent to Enter Into a Contract]

5.1 IS SEQRA FOR THE HOUSE, AND 5.2, WE CAN DO THEM SEPARATELY.

WE'D TAKE THEM AS A CONSENT AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EACH OF THEM.

>> BECAUSE WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND WHETHER WE'RE BONDING FOR THE HOUSE OR BUYING FROM RESERVE?

>> YES, WE ARE.

>> JUST DO THEM SEPARATELY.

>> WE'LL DO IT SEPARATE. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SEQRA TYPE 2 RESOLUTION?

>> [OVERLAPPING] MICROPHONES, HANDS.

>> I SECOND.

>> HANDS, PLEASE.

>> I SECOND AND DARRA.

>> THIS IS THE SEQRA FOR THE HOUSE PURCHASE WHICH WAS DEFINED AS TYPE 2, HAVING NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

>> CORRECT, AND THIS IS DESIGNATING US AS LEAD AGENCY ON THIS.

>> DESIGNATING US AS LEAD AGENCY.

WAIT, NATALIE'S NOT HERE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR?

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> AYE.

>> LET ME CLARIFY MY COMMENTS ON THAT.

WE'RE WE'RE DETERMINING THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT, BEING TYPE 2, THAT NO FURTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS NEEDED.

>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUPERINTENDENT TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT?

>> I THINK WE'RE BOTH LISTED IN THERE.

>> I SECOND.

>> BUT THIS DOESN'T DETERMINE HOW WE PAY FOR IT, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS AUTHORIZING EITHER JACKIE OR MYSELF TO ACTUALLY SIGN THE CONTRACT OF PURCHASE ON THE HOME, WHICH THE BOARD HAS THAT FOR REVIEW.

>> YES. SHOULD I READ THIS?

>> SURE.

>> BUT DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT?

>> NO. I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS IN IT, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO READ IT, IT WILL CLARIFY IT.

>> I'LL READ IT. HERE'S THE RESOLUTION, WHEREAS THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF THE PELHAM UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING SEEKING VOTER APPROVAL TO PURCHASE A PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY IMPROVED WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME LOCATED AT 29 FRANKLIN PLACE, PELHAM, NEW YORK, AND MAKING INTERIOR OFFICE RENOVATIONS TO THE HOME ON THE PROPERTY THAT WILL ALLOW IT TO BE USED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION HEREBY AUTHORIZES THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS TO NEGOTIATE IN CONSULTATION WITH THE DISTRICT'S LEGAL COUNSEL A CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY, IMPROVE WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME LOCATED AT 29 FRANKLIN PLACE, PELHAM,

[03:25:03]

NEW YORK AT A PRICE NOT TO EXCEED $1,450,000, WHICH CONTRACT IS CONTINGENT ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT VOTERS AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE.

THE BOARD AUTHORIZES AND EMPOWERS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD, AND THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS INDIVIDUALLY AND INDEPENDENTLY TO EXECUTE THE NEGOTIATED CONTRACT OF SALE AND FURTHER RESOLVE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AUTHORIZED TO PAY TO THE PROPERTY SELLERS AND/OR THEIR ATTORNEY A DEPOSIT OF NO MORE THAN 10% OF THE PURCHASE PRICE ONCE THE CONTRACT IS FULLY EXECUTED.

THE CONTRACT OF SALE WILL REQUIRE AT LEAST HALF OF THIS DEPOSIT TO BE REFUNDED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IF THE VOTERS DO NOT APPROVE THE PURCHASE, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS ARE HEREBY AUTHORIZED INDEPENDENTLY AND SEPARATELY TO EXECUTE ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS AND TAKE ANY OTHER ACTIONS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PURPOSE OF THIS RESOLUTION.

I SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID WHAT WAS IN THERE.

[LAUGHTER] BUT IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR.

>> I THINK JUST A KEY POINT ON THIS IS TO REMEMBER, THE PURCHASE PRICE IS THE $1,450,000.

THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL $400,000 THAT WE'RE SEEKING PERMISSION TO SPEND FOR RENOVATIONS.

>> ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR?

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> NONE OPPOSED.

>> DID WE HAVE A MOTION? SORRY, WE GOT TO TAKE A MOTION.

>> DIDN'T WE?

>> I DIDN'T DO THE MOTION BEFORE?

>> I SECOND.

>> I THINK I MIGHT HAVE CUT YOU OFF.

>> YOU CUT ME OFF?

>> SORRY. NOW YOU HAVE TWO MOTIONS.

>> ARE WE VOTING?

>> WAIT, WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> SIDNEY AND DARRA.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE BOUCHONG.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> YES, THANK YOU.

>> FOR APPROACHING US AND FOR UNDERSTANDING THE VALUE OF WHAT THIS CAN MEAN TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> THAT'S EVERYTHING WITH RESPECT TO THE HOUSE.

>> ONE MORE ITEM, AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE FUNDING AND THE PROPOSITION THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE VOTERS FOR THE HOUSE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, 5.3. SHOULD I DO THE MOTION, AND THEN WE TALK THROUGH IT?

[5.3 Motion to Approve Resolution Authorizing a Bond Proposition on the Purchase of Real Property]

>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT. THERE WAS A PROPOSED RESOLUTION.

I'M GOING TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN AMENDED RESOLUTION?

>> IS THAT HOW WE DO?

>> IS THAT HOW WE DO IT?

>> YES. WE'RE GETTING A NOD FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK.

>> AN AMENDED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING WHAT?

>> JIM, FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN, BUT I THINK THE PROPOSAL IS THAT THE FUNDING SOURCE, INSTEAD OF BEING A BOND, WOULD BE OUT OF EXISTING FUND RESERVES.

>> YES. I DIDN'T REALIZE.

>> EXISTING FUND BALANCE, SORRY.

>> THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE. SORRY.

>> THE AUTHORIZING A VOTE.

THE AMENDED MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A VOTE ON THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN READ A PROPOSED RESOLUTION INTO THE RECORD.

>> WONDERFUL.

>> WHEREAS THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF THE PELHAM UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING SEEKING VOTER APPROVAL TO PURCHASE A PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY IMPROVED WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME LOCATED AT 29 FRANKLIN PLACE, PELHAM, NEW YORK, ALSO KNOWN AS THE SPL 163.68-2-17, THE PROPERTY, AND MAKING INTERIOR RENOVATIONS FOR DISTRICT USE TO THE HOME ON THE PROPERTY, COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO HERE AND AFTER AS THE PROJECT.

WHEREAS BY RESOLUTION OF THE SAME DATE, THE BOARD DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT CONSTITUTES A TYPE 2 ACTION UNDER THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT AND THE REGULATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK, PROMULGATED UNDER COLLECTIVELY SEQRA, AND WHEREAS THE BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE ANTICIPATED COMPONENTS, PHASES, AND ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT, AND WHEREAS THE BOARD HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE RESIDENTIAL CONTRACT OF SALE BETWEEN CLAYTON BUSHONG AND HEATHER BUSHONG, AND THE BOARD FOR THE PROPERTY, THE CONTRACT.

NOW, THEREFORE, SAID PROPOSITION SHALL APPEAR IN THE NOTICE OF ANNUAL DISTRICT MEETING AND ELECTION TO BE HELD MAY 20TH, 2025, AND THE DISTRICT CLERK IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED TO INCLUDE SUCH PROPOSITION IN SAID NOTICE BY INSERTING HERE AND THEREAFTER SUBSTANTIALLY THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPHS.

RESOLVED THAT AS PART OF THE ANNUAL DISTRICT MEETING, THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL BE ASKED TO VOTE ON THE PROPOSITION DESCRIBED BELOW, SHALL THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION BE ADOPTED, PROPOSITION.

RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF THE PELHAM UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED TO EXPEND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,850,000 FROM DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO

[03:30:01]

PURCHASE AND RENOVATE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 29 FRANKLIN PLACE, PELHAM, NEW YORK, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS SPL 163.68-2-17 ON THE TAX MAP OF THE TOWN OF PELHAM.

YES, NO. IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT VOTING SHALL BE BY BALLOT ON ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES, AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE DISTRICT CLERK IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED TO INCLUDE AFORESAID PROPOSITION IN A LEGAL NOTICE FOR THE ANNUAL DISTRICT MEETING, AND TO PUBLISH SUCH NOTICE IN THE JOURNAL NEWS, OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER OF THE DISTRICT, SUCH PUBLICATION TO BE MADE FOUR TIMES WITHIN THE SEVEN WEEKS PRECEDING THE ANNUAL DISTRICT MEETING.

THE FIRST PUBLICATION TO BE AT LEAST 45 DAYS PRIOR TO SAID ANNUAL DISTRICT MEETING, AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS RESOLUTION SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

>> DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT AT ALL, HOW WE DETERMINE?

>> I'LL GIVE MY OPINION.

THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT WAS TO BOND FOR IT, AND THAT JUST GAVE ME PAUSE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

THE FIRST IS, AS WE DISCUSSED WITH OTHER ITEMS TONIGHT, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE LONG-TERM ECONOMICS OF A PROJECT, IF WE BONDED FOR THIS 1.8 MILLION, OVER 30 YEARS, WE WOULD PAY APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILLION IN INTEREST.

YOU'RE NEARLY DOUBLING THE LIFETIME COST OF BUYING THE HOUSE. THAT'S ONE POINT.

THE SECOND POINT IS, THANKS TO YEARS OF BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, WE HAVE ROBUST RESERVES, AND THE RESERVES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COMPARED, OR THE METAPHOR THAT'S BEEN USED IS, IT'S LIKE A BANK ACCOUNT FOR THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ARE COMING.

THIS STRIKES ME AS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WAS COMING, AND IT'S WORTH DIPPING INTO THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK WE CAN ABSORB IT FAIRLY COMFORTABLY, AND WE'RE ALSO BONDING FOR MANY OTHER THINGS.

THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD BUY IT OUT OF RESERVES RATHER THAN BONDING FOR IT. THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> I WON'T SAY ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S LATE, BUT I AGREE WITH THAT. [LAUGHTER]

>> I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH THAT AGREEMENT.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, WILL, FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK IT FEELS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A NO BRAINER RIGHT NOW FOR US.

IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

>> I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT ALSO.

>> I'M HERE. I'M IN SUPPORT OF.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU.

THEN I GUESS YOU CAN CALL THE VOTE.

>> I DID THE MOTION FOR AN AMENDED RESOLUTION, OR DID I NOT TAKE THE MOTION?

>> WE TOOK THE MOTION AND DID WE GET A SECOND ON THE AMENDED RESOLUTION?

>> SHIFT THE VOTE ON THE AMENDED RESOLUTION.

>> DID WE GET A SECOND, VALLARY? NO.

>> WE GET A SECOND OVER HERE.

>> THANK YOU. NONE OPPOSED.

>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. WE MIGHT AS WELL DO, I'D SAY 3.4, SEPARATE.

>> 5.4?

>> SORRY, 5.4.

>> [LAUGHTER] I'M JUST LIKE WE'RE GOING BACK TO THREE.

>> TOO LATE.

>> WE'RE MOVING TO THE SEQRA FOR THE BOND NOW.

[5.4 Motion to Approve SEQRA Negative Declaration for Proposed Capital Bond Project Resolution]

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SEQRA NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR PROPOSED CAPITAL BOND PROJECT RESOLUTION?

>> WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY MORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? NO? ALL IN FAVOR?

>> NONE OPPOSED. THE MOTION CARRIES.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S LIKE DRAG RACING OUTSIDE.

[5.5 Motion to Accept Treasurer's Report for the Period Ended December 31, 2024 and January 31, 2025]

[5.6 Motion to Approve 2024-2025 Budget Transfers]

CAN I TAKE 5.5 AND 5.6 AS A CONSENT AGENDA? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE 5.5 AND 5.6?

>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THESE? ALL IN FAVOR?

>> NONE OPPOSE, SO THOSE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT A DONATION?

[5.7 Motion to Approve Donation of Funds to Support the Pelham Memorial High School Music Program for the 2024-2025 School Year]

>> I'LL READ THIS DONATION.

WE RESOLVED THAT UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF THE PELHAM UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES HEREBY ACCEPT MONIES RAISED THROUGH FUND RAISING EFFORTS TO SUPPORT THE MUSIC PROGRAM AT PELHAM MEMORIAL HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE 2024-2025 SCHOOL YEAR.

SUCH FUNDS SHALL BE USED FOR THEIR DESIGNATED PURPOSE TO SUPPORT TRIPS AND OTHER PROGRAM COSTS,

[03:35:02]

AND SHALL BE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND, RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH FUND RAISING EFFORTS MAY OCCUR AT VARIOUS TIMES DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AUTHORIZES THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ACCEPT FUTURE DONATIONS FOR SUCH PURPOSES THROUGH THE END OF THE 2024-2025 SCHOOL YEAR.

THANK YOU TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS THE FUND RAISING EFFORTS FOR THE MUSIC PROGRAM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> THAT BRINGS US TO POLICY.

>> POLICY. [LAUGHTER]

>> SHALL I?

>> YES, TAKE US AWAY.

>> FAR BE IT FOR ME TO STOP YOU.

[LAUGHTER] IF YOU WANT TO SWITCH OFF OR [INAUDIBLE].

>> IF I MISS ANY CRITICAL PIECES, BECAUSE I KNOW SID DOES A FANTASTIC JOB OF PREPARING AND LEADING, AND REALLY ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS.

>> [OVERLAPPING] IT MAKES THE POLICY MEETINGS GREAT.

>> YES, AND EFFICIENT.

>> THE WHOLE TEAM DOES.

>> THIS HAS BEEN, I THINK TWO POLICY MONTH COMMITTEES WORTH OF POLICIES COMING FORWARD.

[6.1 Policy 5640 - Smoking/Tobacco (First Reading)]

THANK YOU TO VALLARY TOO.

GOD BLESS HER. KEEPS IT ALL STRAIGHT.

SUZANNE, WHO'S OUR ATTORNEY FROM KEANE & BEANE, WHO'S ALSO BEEN A CRITICAL HELPER IN THE CABINET, WHO'S REALLY HELPED IN DOING THE PRE WORK SO THAT WHEN WE COME TO COMMITTEE, IT HAS BEEN ABLE TO BE VERY EFFICIENT, AND WE'RE READY TO ACT.

THERE IS A WHOLE SERIES OF FIRST READINGS TONIGHT.

REALLY, THERE'S NO ACTION TAKING ON ANY OF THEM, BUT JUST TO WALK YOU VERY QUICKLY THROUGH.

WE'VE GOT RED LINE VERSIONS FOR YOU THERE AS WELL AS THE OLD.

A LOT OF THESE CAME FROM THE POLICY SERVICE AUDIT.

I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE YEAR, WE'VE BEEN WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THAT TO TRY TO GET THROUGH IT BY THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND WE'RE VERY MUCH ON TRACK.

WHEN YOU SEE A LOT OF EDITS, THAT'S LARGELY BECAUSE THE UPDATED VERSIONS FROM THE POLICY SERVICE DIFFERED GREATLY FROM WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

IN ADDITION TO THE AUDIT, WE DID ASK THEM TO LOOK AT A COUPLE BASED ON SOME ISSUES THAT WE WERE HANDLING ON THE CAMPUSES.

FOR EXAMPLE, UPDATED A PROHIBITION ON STUDENT USE OF SUBSTANCES ON SCHOOL PREMISES.

THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS DATED JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOLID POLICY IN PLACE THAT SPOKE TO THE CODE OF CONDUCT AND EXPECTED BEHAVIOR OF BOTH STUDENTS AND ADULTS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY THINKING ABOUT ATHLETIC EVENTS, ESPECIALLY AT GLOVER FIELD.

A LOT OF TIMES, FOLKS FORGET OR DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S SCHOOL PROPERTY AND DON'T REALIZE THAT SMOKING VAPES, ALCOHOL, ETC, ARE NOT PERMITTED ON SCHOOL PROPERTY, PERIOD, SO WE WANTED TO STRENGTHEN AND UPDATE THAT POLICY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT.

MOVING TO WELLNESS,

[6.2 Policy 5661 - Wellness (First Reading)]

THIS WAS UPDATED LAST YEAR, BUT FOUND SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES PER THE POLICY AUDIT SERVICE.

AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN RED LINE IS ALL THOSE PREDOMINANTLY UPDATES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE POLICY SERVICE.

OUR WELLNESS COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH IT AGAIN.

JIM, TRACY, AND JOE TOOMBS, OUR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR WENT THROUGH IT AGAIN FROM THEIR LENS, COMPLETED THE ASSOCIATED ASSESSMENT THAT'S REQUIRED PART OF THE POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS UP TO DATE, AND GLEANED ANY LEARNINGS FROM THAT AND APPLIED THEM TOWARDS THE EDITS.

THAT'S AN EXTENSIVE POLICY.

A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE THERE.

>> THE WELLNESS ONE, YOU MEAN?

>> WELLNESS, YES.

EVACUATION LOCKDOWN IN EMERGENCY,

[6.3 Policy 5683 - Evacuation, Lockdown and Emergency Dismissal Drills (First Reading)]

I BELIEVE IS ONE OF OUR REQUIRED UPDATES.

VAL, LOOKS LIKE THE FILE FORMAT ON THOSE AND ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE A LITTLE WONKY.

THE RED LINE VERSION SEEMS TO BE COMING UP STRANGE.

THIS ONE, I THINK THERE WERE VERY MINIMAL UPDATES.

I CAN'T GET THE RED LINE TO OPEN.

THERE IT IS. THERE WERE RED LINE UPDATES TO THAT BASED ON POLICY SERVICE, AND OF COURSE, IN COORDINATION WITH ALTERIS.

THOSE ARE REALLY JUST UPDATING THOSE TO CURRENT SAFETY STANDARDS AS PRESCRIBED BY THE STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT.

JIM, WOULD THAT CAPTURE EVERYTHING THERE?

>> SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE WORKPLACE,

[6.4 Policy 6121 - Sexual Harassment in the Workplace (First Reading)]

ANOTHER EXTENSIVE POLICY THAT SUZANNE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT ON THOSE UPDATES.

I THINK YOU'VE GOT EDITS FROM ERIE 1 BOCES POLICY SERVICE IN THERE, AS WELL AS EDITS FROM THE ATTORNEYS.

THERE'S JUST SOME DIFFERENT COLORS EXTENSIVELY REWRITTEN TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE MOST RECENT REGULATIONS.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M LOOKING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CHANGED IN WHEN WE STARTED THESE VERSUS WHERE WE LANDED WITH A NEW ADMINISTRATION.

>> I THINK THESE ARE STILL CONSISTENT WITH NEW YORK STATE LAW.

[03:40:04]

>> WHICH HASN'T CHANGED. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE CAN JUST TRIPLE CHECK WITH SUZANNE.

I AGREE, THESE ARE DEFINITELY CONSISTENT WITH NEW YORK STATE, IT HAS NOT CHANGED, AND JUST ASK HER TO CHECK IF THERE'S ANY IMPLICATIONS FROM ANY CHANGES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

INCIDENTAL TEACHING, ANOTHER POLICY SERVICE, VERY MINOR UPDATE,

[6.5 Policy 6214 - Incidental Teaching (First Reading)]

AND JUST TAKING OUT LANGUAGE THAT WAS UNNECESSARY, KEEPING IT TO THE REGULATORY LANGUAGE.

WE WILL BE UPDATING APPR LIKELY IN THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

WE'LL BE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AGAIN, THAT COMES AS A WHOLE SEPARATE PLAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PART OF POLICY.

LEAVE OF ABSENCES.

[6.6 Policy 6550 - Leaves of Absence (First Reading)]

WE'VE GOT HERE AGAIN, VERY MINOR UPDATES IN THE FIRST HALF, BUT AS YOU GET FURTHER INTO IT, THERE ARE MORE EXTENSIVE UPDATES THAT REALLY AGAIN, RELATE MOSTLY TO REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, SO THINGS LIKE LEAVE FOR BREASTFEEDING AND LACTATION, VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, MILITARY LEAVE.

THERE ARE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS AROUND THESE THAT PROMPTED CHANGES IN POLICY, [NOISE] SO WE HAVE WRITTEN THOSE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE UPDATES.

TIME OUT AND PHYSICAL RESTRAINT IS ONE THAT WE DID ALREADY DO LAST YEAR,

[6.7 Policy 7350 - Timeout and Physical Restraint (First Reading)]

BUT IT WAS BROUGHT AGAIN BY THE POLICY SERVICE BECAUSE THERE WERE MORE RECENT CHANGES.

FOR THE RECORD, WE DO NOT USE TIME OUT IN OUR SCHOOLS, BUT WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A POLICY ON IT. PHYSICAL RESTRAINT.

WE HAVE CERTAIN STAFF WHO ARE TRAINED SPECIFICALLY IN PHYSICAL AND VERBAL DE-ESCALATION STRATEGIES.

THEY USE THEM SPARINGLY.

ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THAT SHOULD NOT BE USING ANY RESTRAINT, AND THERE IS A PROCESS FOR REPORTING TO THE STATE IF THAT DOES INADVERTENTLY HAPPEN.

BUT AGAIN, WE DID NOT USE TIME OUT.

ANY SMALL EDITS WERE DONE THERE WERE REALLY JUST DESIGNED TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS NEEDED BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AT MINIMUM.

STUDENT PHYSICALS. AGAIN, THIS

[6.8 Policy 7512 - Student Physicals (First Reading)]

WAS UPDATING A POLICY BASED ON THE POLICY SERVICE AND ATTORNEY'S REVIEW.

HAD CLARIFICATIONS AROUND HEALTH EXAMINATIONS WHEN THEY REQUIRED, AND THIS IS ALIGNMENT WITH STATE REGULATIONS IN LARGE PART.

>> WE ALL LEARNED ABOUT DENTAL HEALTH CERTIFICATES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> YES, DENTAL HEALTH CERTIFICATES, [LAUGHTER] THAT THEY EVEN EXIST.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I CAN'T WAIT TO GET INTO READING THIS ONE.

>> YES. TO WHICH I COULD SAY, MY MOTHER WAS A SCHOOL DENTAL HYGIENIST WAY BACK, [OVERLAPPING] FROM THE EARLY DAYS.

MEDICATION AND PERSONAL CARE ITEMS, AGAIN,

[6.9 Policy 7513 - Medication and Personal Care Items (First Reading)]

UPDATING BASED ON UPDATED POLICIES AND REGULATIONS.

WE DEBATED THROUGH WHAT LEVEL OF SELF ADMINISTRATION.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGER CONVERSATIONS THAT ULTIMATELY LANDED BACK AT OUR CURRENT PRACTICE.

I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC SPOT.

I FORGET EXACTLY WHAT THE TERM WAS.

SID, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER BEFORE ME.

>> THE TERM AROUND WHAT?

>> WHERE WE HAD THE DEBATE ABOUT SELF-CARRY, SELF-ADMINISTRATION.

THESE ARE NOT QUITE THE TERMS. BUT WE QUESTIONED OUR CURRENT POLICY TO SAY IS OUR CURRENT POLICY WORKING? IS OUR CURRENT PRACTICE WORKING? DO WE WANT TO EXPAND IT?

>> INDEPENDENT STUDENTS, I THINK, IS ANOTHER CATEGORY.

>> YES, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL CATEGORY, AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE ONE THAT WE SUPERVISED.

[OVERLAPPING] YES. ONE THAT WOULD BE VERY CHALLENGING FOR US TO MONITOR AND SUPERVISE.

THE SAFEST BET WAS NOT TO INCLUDE IT.

WE DID VERIFY THAT YES, SUNSCREEN HAS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE POLICY.

THAT IS A STATE REGULATION ON THAT.

STUDENTS WITH LIFE-THREATENING HEALTH CONDITIONS,

[6.10 Policy 7521 - Students with Life-Threatening Health Conditions (First Reading)]

I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME ALIGNMENT WITH OTHER POLICIES, SO THAT WE HAD CONSISTENT MEDICAL POLICIES ACROSS THE BOARD.

VERY MINIMAL UPDATES THERE.

CHILD ABUSE AND MALTREATMENT.

[6.11 Policy 7530 - Child Abuse and Maltreatment (First Reading)]

AGAIN, UPDATES OF LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF CHILD ABUSE, IT'S NOW SHIFTED TO CHILD ABUSE IN A DOMESTIC SETTING, LAYING OUT CLARIFYING UPDATED EXPECTATIONS RELATED TO MANDATED REPORTING.

AGAIN, MOST OF THIS IS EMBEDDED IN REGULATION AND STATUTE, NON-RETALIATION PROVISIONS, PROCEDURES, ETC.

MUCH MORE DETAILED ADDITIONS THERE, BUT THEY ARE ALL REGULATORY DRIVEN.

DUE PROCESS COMPLAINTS,

[6.12 Policy 7670 - Due Process Complaints: Selection and Board Appointment of Impartial Hearing Officers (First Reading)]

SECTION IMPARTIAL HEARING OFFICERS.

JUST AGAIN, UPDATING CLARIFYING PROCESS FOR THAT.

[03:45:05]

LOTS OF CHANGES TO THAT ONE, BUT LOTS OF CLARIFICATION, SIMPLIFICATION, AND UPDATING OF LANGUAGE, BASED PREDOMINANTLY ON THE ERIE 1 BOCES MODEL.

FINALLY, HOME HOSPITAL AND INSTITUTIONAL INSTRUCTION,

[6.13 Policy 8450 - Home, Hospital, or Institutional Instruction (Homebound Instruction) (First Reading)]

AGAIN, SHORT POLICY, BUT MOSTLY REWRITTEN BASED ON THE ERIE 1 POLICY.

BUT JUST OUTLINING OUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROVISION, PROCESS FOR REQUESTING HOME INSTRUCTION AND WHEN THAT WOULD APPLY, AND THEN ALSO SPEAKING TO HOME HOSPITAL AND INSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE RECORD KEEPING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

I'M SORRY, THIS IS A VERY FAST SKIM.

I KNOW THE BOARD HAS READ ALL OF THESE, SO I DON'T WANT TO DWELL ON IT.

BUT CERTAINLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO EXPLORE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, LET US KNOW.

>> I DO, ACTUALLY, JUST ON ONE OF THE WELLNESS THINGS. WHO DO I GO TO FOR THAT?

>> TRACY IS THE LEAD ON THE COMMITTEE.

SID AND I COULD TAKE THAT FEEDBACK BACK TO [INAUDIBLE].

>> SID, I'LL TALK TO YOU ON THE WAY OUT.

>> I'M ON THE WELLNESS COMMITTEE, YOU CAN ASK ME.

>> ON THE WAY OUT AS WELL.

>> I'M ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE.

>> WE'LL DO THAT AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHATEVER POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENTS FOR NEXT TIME.

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT BACK TO YOU AND RECOMMEND CONSENT AGENDAS.

[7.1 Motion to Approve - Schedule A - Instructional]

[7.2 Motion to Approve - Schedule B - Extra Duty Appointments]

[7.3 Motion to Approve - Schedule C - Non-Instructional]

[8.1 Motion to Approve Schedule D - Committee on Special Education (Confidential)]

>> YES, THANK YOU FOR DR.

CHAN FOR TAKING US THROUGH THOSE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE 7.1-8.1 AS A CONSENT AGENDA?

>> SO MOVED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> NONE OPPOSE. THOSE CARRY.

>> AYE [OVERLAPPING]

>> DR. CHAN, JUST BACK ON THE POLICIES, I THINK WE'LL HAVE THESE FOR A SECOND READING AT THE NEXT MEETING.

THEN I THINK WE HAD SOME FROM A PRIOR MEETING THAT CAN ALSO GO FOR A SECOND READING.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> SID IS JUST POINTING OUT HIS STELLAR NUMBERS.

>> [OVERLAPPING] HE'S GOT IT GOING.

>> I JUST WANT TO GET THEM ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. [LAUGHTER]

>> I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE ACTUAL.

WELL, WHEN WE APPROVE THEM, WE'LL HAVE, BUT WE'LL KEEP THE NUMBERS, THE TALLY GOING AFTERWARDS. [LAUGHTER]

>> NO, I DID. I WENT THROUGH TO 8.1.

>> SCHEDULE D.

>> WE DID THE SCHEDULE D. ANY NEW BUSINESS? I'M STARING EVERYONE DOWN.

[LAUGHTER] THERE COULD BE. ANYONE HAVE ANY? NO. THE PUBLIC IS NOT HERE.

NO COMMUNICATIONS.

I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.